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Where do atheists get their morality from?
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Where do atheists get their morality from?
How do atheists know what is morally right or morally wrong? Is morality cultural, gut feel, are there any basic principled you can use? Opinions?
Christianity is grounded in history, the facts of science, the rules of logic, and verifiable biblical truths.
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RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
"Where do atheists get their morality from?"

Same place as you do. A combination of cultural upbringing, empathy for others, desire for societal acceptance and other similar factors. As any other social species, humans demonstrate tolerance for co-operative members of the group and abhorrence for those who abuse and manipulate the group. That's why we applaud someone for helping an old lady across the road and lock up someone who mugs that old lady for her pension. In less enlightened times, people who violated the social mores for personal gain would have been punished by death or banishment from the group. This still happens in what we in the so-called civilised world (and America) might consider less enlightened nations, and most notably in the animal kingdom among other social species.

Any good to you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
We use exactly the same thing you Christians really use despite the thick coat of muddy delusions you put on it - human experience. But we:

1. Are honest and hard nosed about it.

2. Make far, far better use of it.
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RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
(August 30, 2012 at 11:51 pm)Chuck Wrote: We use exactly the same thing you Christians really use despite the thick coat of muddy delusions you put on it - human experience. But we:

1. Are honest and hard nosed about it.

2. Make far, far better use of it.
What do you mean by make better use of it? I don't know what that means.
I like your avatar, it reminds me of the Cambrian explosion, something I'm rather fond of. Smile
Christianity is grounded in history, the facts of science, the rules of logic, and verifiable biblical truths.
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(August 31, 2012 at 12:07 am)Atom Wrote: I like your avatar, it reminds me of the Cambrian explosion, something I'm rather fond of. Smile

Looking forward to seeing your fondness expressed in some future thread.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
I think the shape of bananas is a much better argument against evolution the the CE
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RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
(August 30, 2012 at 11:51 pm)Stimbo Wrote: "Where do atheists get their morality from?"

Same place as you do. A combination of cultural upbringing, empathy for others, societal acceptance and other similar factors. As any other social species, humans demonstrate tolerance for co-operative members of the group and abhorrence for those who abuse and manipulate the group. That's why we applaud someone for helping an old lady across the road and lock up someone who mugs that old lady for her pension. In less enlightened times, people who violated the social mores for personal gain would have been punished by death or banishment from the group. This still happens in what we in the so-called civilised world (and America) might consider less enlightened nations, and most notably in the animal kingdom among other social species.

Any good to you?
I can't disagree with most of what you said. I'm not sure I agree with this idea I think you said - that animals put each other to death or banish each other for violating social mores for personal gain. Most animals don't seem to have social mores so much as patterns of reactions. Some more intelligent social animals do seem to have something like primitive culture.

(August 31, 2012 at 12:16 am)idunno Wrote: I think the shape of bananas is a much better argument against evolution the the CE
OK, you got by attention. The shape of bananas?
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(August 30, 2012 at 11:39 pm)Atom Wrote: How do atheists know what is morally right or morally wrong? Is morality cultural, gut feel, are there any basic principled you can use? Opinions?

The Golden Rule predates religious morality. It has been used by social animals (including man) for thousands of years.

Tsze-kung asked, saying, "Is there one word which may serve as a rule of
practice for all one's life?" The Master said, "Is not Reciprocity such a
word? What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others."

— Confucius, Analects XV.24
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