Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling)

[idunno]

Why doesn't traversing for an infinite amount of time not equal traversing an infinite distance?

Because they are both endless. You never reach an end point. You just keep going.

[ib.me.ub]

duh

I asked because I thought you might like to repeat it. I realise you currently think I'm an asshole due to another thread, but I'd rather not get sarcastic replies when there's no need for them.

ok. I will repeat it.

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Secondly, yes, there may exist other universes which have their own "time bubble" and those universes might even have a different set of physical laws than that of the universe that we are aware of. There could be billions of other universes each having a different set of laws and a different time bubble. Where is the end point in all of that? Obviously, nobody knows.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...004112.htm

It basically involved this and some stuff about how science can explain all of it, we just dont know the science involved yet.

[Napoléon]

ok. I will repeat it, just to fuck over the asshole who deleted it the first time.

The only person who could of deleted it would be a mod, so either you didn't actually post yet you thought you did, or a mod has gone out of their way to delete it.

[idunno]

I asked because I thought you might like to repeat it. I realise you currently think I'm an asshole due to another thread, but I'd rather not get sarcastic replies when there's no need for them.

ok. I will repeat it, just to fuck over the asshole who deleted it the first time.

I will repeat it as well, because we Christians like to help a friend in need

[ib.me.ub]

Secondly, yes, there may exist other universes which have their own "time bubble" and those universes might even have a different set of physical laws than that of the universe that we are aware of. There could be billions of other universes each having a different set of laws and a different time bubble. Where is the end point in all of that? Obviously, nobody knows.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...004112.htm

It basically involved this and some stuff about how science can explain all of it, we just dont know the science involved yet.

It was a bit more in depth than this, but I cant be bothered.

[genkaus]

Because they are both endless. You never reach an end point. You just keep going.

That's not an answer. You do realize that you have kept going for an endless time.

[idunno]

That's absolutely an answer. But at this point it seems best to agree to disagree. Perhaps if C+S chimes in on this it'll become clearer, apparently he understands I'm making a distinction between an actual and potential infinite.

[Categories+Sheaves]

That's absolutely an answer. But at this point it seems best to agree to disagree. Perhaps if C+S chimes in on this it'll become clearer, apparently he understands I'm making a distinction between an actual and potential infinite.

I mean, we can talk intelligently about points at infinity (cf. extended reals, projective spaces) or else it wouldn't be on the table. We've all seen functions with vertical asymptotes (e.g. 1/x) so we can also talk intelligently about traveling infinite distances in finite amounts of time--but given that universal speed limit (3*108 yadda yadda) it's not going to have a ton of physical relevance.
The 'actual'/'potential' thing... I mean, there's a difference between being able to bet any amount of money on an auction (it can be arbitrarily large, so go ahead and break out the Conway chained arrow notation... But you're still offering finite amounts) and being able to bet infinity dollars. What would the latter even mean?

That being said, it's possible for the auction to keep going of you're clear about how the infinities work ("aleph-null dollars!", "aleph-null plus fifty dollars!", "aleph-one plus aleph-null plus a hundred dollars!" etc.). That being said, I have no idea how you would make physical sense of the result when the auction ended. Is there some time-point after the infinite amount of time we spend traveling an infinite distance?

[idunno]

I'm just happy to be understood at this point. It seems it's your turn to be misunderstood as I don't speak Math. The question you pose at the end there is especially relevant though. Suppose you traverse an infinite distance of time (something I still think is -impossible) is there time after that?

[IATIA]

Time is merely the measurement of motion or cause and effect. In QM, time is not a necessary component of the equations.

If time truly existed, then of course, we have the infinite regression problem.

Infinity must exist at certain levels. The universe is expanding into what? If there is a boundary, what is the boundary?

According to Hawking and others, there is no such thing as a void. Mainly because it would invalidate their theories (and it makes sense)

My belief.

There is no time, there is no space. Everything exists, all universes, all possibilities. Our linear perception of this existence is what limits us to this universe and all that exists is what we perceive.