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'Stop Calling us Nazis'
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'Stop Calling us Nazis'
Quote:The Mitt Romney campaign issued a statement Wednesday demanding Democratic officials "cease and desist from comparing those with whom they disagree to Nazis" after three analogies were made over the course of three days by the party’s politicians.

In the most recent offence, the chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party compared the Republicans female governor of South Carolina, Nikki Haley, to Adolf Hitler’s mistress, Eva Braun.
“Hell no. What am I apologizing for?,” he said when asked by the network if he would apologize. “This is fake. Nikki Haley is feigning this. There is not a sincere bone in her body.”

“I don’t even know if Eva Braun was a Nazi or not, but I know she dated one,” he continued. “I wasn’t trying to insinuate that Nikki was a Nazi. I was saying that she was hanging out in an insular bunker in Charlotte when she won’t give access to the press here in South Carolina.”

The offensive analogy comes only a day after a top Kansas Democrat compared Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan to Adolf Hitler.

On Tuesday, John Burton, a top California Democrat, likened Ryan's speech to the Republic National Convention to the lies of Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/159706


10 Similarities Between Ultra-Conservative Republicans and Nazis


Quote:1. The general feeling, whether spoken out right, or kept not-so-subtly-hidden, of being better than others. Nazis, like Republicans, and Republicans, like Nazis, think they’re better. They’re white. They don’t like, not necessarily in this order of dislike, niggers, spics, gooks, zips (Koreans), dinks (Chinese), wops, Jew kikes, Japs, wet-back greasers, camel-jockeys and sand niggers (A-rabs), Frogs, foreigners, immigrants, faggots and butch lesbians, and a host of others. Republicans often talk about (white) Americans as though they’re God’s chosen people, the only people who matter (in the war in Iraq, no mention has ever been made of the number of Iraqis killed because they don’t matter). The Nazis of course called themselves the Master Race.

2. Religious Xenophobia. God is a Republican. The Republicans tie religious belief to their supposed superiority, and to politics and policy-setting. They know God. You don’t. God favors them, not you, if you disagree with them. The German Nazis had belt buckles that read, “Gott Mitt Uns” (God is with us).

3. Patriotism as propaganda. Republicans consistently and improperly display the flag, often from car antennas, to demonstrate their patriotic resolve, when the flag was meant to be displayed properly, only in places where decorum would allow dignity. The flag was not meant to be a feckless political prop to back a right wing world viewpoint. For their part, the German Nazis had rallies with thousands of flags.

4. Love of war. The Republicans used to pride themselves as the party that didn’t start wars, the Democrats did. No more. Today, they never saw a war they didn’t like (they won’t admit it), and view war not as a purely defensive measure as the Founding Fathers intended, but as a useful tool, an instrument of shaping foreign policy. The German Nazis use of war is well known to the world.

5. Love of radio propaganda. Political talk radio is a largely right-wing creation, to counter what conservatives endlessly contend is the liberally biased mainstream media, and has mushroomed across the country, fed by angry white boys who like to listen to it. It is hosted by a host of American Joseph Goebbels (German minister of propaganda) imitators, who dispense false accusations, right-wing claptrap and mocking, thinly-disguised hate for those who disagree with them. Their most recognizable traits are smugness and the school-yard bully mean spirit.

6. The cult of the leader (fuehrer). Democrats may praise the tough pluck of little Harry Truman, or the dignified wisdom of FDR, but mythologizing conservatives as some kind of gods brought down from on-high is a right-wing phenomenon that has recently grown in scope. Current deification efforts include among others, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne and the pre-posthumous Rush Limbaugh. The Germans of course had Hitler.

7. Use of diversions. The Germans used the Reichstag fire of 1933 to suspend civil liberties under emergency decree. George W. Bush used 9-11 to invade Iraq under the guise of false weapons of mass destruction, and to re-make the Middle East. He did illegal wire taps of American citizens to make Americans supposedly safer. Both German and American citizens largely accepted these measures with docility and without debate or protest.

8. Use of scapegoats. The Germans called people they didn’t like “sub-humans.” The right-wing Republicans call them “bad Americans.”

9. Contempt for Democracy. Hitler said Democracy was corrupt, soft. Bush said being a dictator would be easier than being president.

10. The blame game, or denial of bad news. Conservatives, in power for eight years, blame Obama for the country’s impending economic collapse. Hitler said his generals let him down.

http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/20...and-nazis/ (written in 2009)
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
What an incredibly stupid post, there are some idiotic ones here but this sort of nbehaviour is juvenile in the extreme. The Republicans are not nazis, the Democrats are not Nazis or Islamists but this constant immature attempt at comparing the atrocities of Nazi Germany to the Democrats shows what an utter jerk you are. You are si,ilar to those preblican idiots who call all of us De,ocrats equivalent names


I cam show that Democrats fit all your criteria and it still means nothing

1. The general feeling, whether spoken out right, or kept not-so-subtly-hidden, of being better than others.

As in the Democrats view of republicans as being Dim witted hill billies or swamp dwellers, mumbling bible phrases in between believing everything on fox news.

2.. Religious Xenophobia.


Supporting a president who went to a black supremacist church

3 Patriotism as propaganda

The US Flag was everywhere at the democrat national covention (and so it should be)

4Love of war.


Didn't notice the war in Afghanistan ending...did you? Most wars in the last 100 years that the US has been involved in were started by Democrats...and so what?

Love of radio propaganda.

NPR is solidly to the left of US politics

The cult of the leader (fuehrer)

That would be Obama

ONLY Obama has propagated the leader cult to the extent that children in schools have been forced to chant praise hymns to him. Criticizing him has lead to accusations of Racism.

Use of diversions.


Obama used the economic crisis to spend billions bailing out failed motor vehicle companies who had solidly reliable democrat voting workers.

Use of scapegoats.

[Democrats call opponents 'racists and Nazis'

. Contempt for Democracy.

The Obama regime has constantly given orders not to prosecute Black Nazis who intimidate voters or try and prevent election inspectors from doing their job


10. The blame game, or denial of bad news

The Obama administration after 4 years in power still blames George bush

However this still means nothing. Neither parties are like the Nazis, communists or Islamist. Both parties are generally run by democratic patriotic American people who beleive that they have the right answers.

as a Moderate Democrat the problem is not with either party it is from extremists in both parties who support extremist anti democratic regimes and demonize the others for doing the same.

We have had great Presidents and shit presidents from Both parties. the last Great President was Bill Clinton. I'm waiting for another but this time I don't get a choice.
Both aren't up to standard
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#3
RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
Quote:The Republicans are not nazis

True. "Nazis" were unique to Germany.


Fascists, however, are everywhere. Especially in the GOP.
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#4
RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
Just because they are not Nazi's does not mean they aren't making the same mistake's or using simular methods with their population. They might not be nazi's but they sure do allot of nazi stuff.
Live every day as if already dead, that way you're not disappointed when you are. Big Grin
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
Nazi stuff like what? gassing 6 million Jews?

Invading Poland?

Going to war with the UK?

people who think the GOP are fascists have very little knowledge of fascism, its roots and its economic policy. Indeed you can always catch out their ignorance because they can't work out, in their tiny minds, what fascists mean by 'corporovatismo', they just take the nearest English word and think it means that.

Why don;t you teenage kids actually read some books on the subject that aren't written by extremist loons
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
(September 14, 2012 at 12:54 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Nazi stuff like what? gassing 6 million Jews?

Invading Poland?

Going to war with the UK?

people who think the GOP are fascists have very little knowledge of fascism, its roots and its economic policy. Indeed you can always catch out their ignorance because they can't work out, in their tiny minds, what fascists mean by 'corporovatismo', they just take the nearest English word and think it means that.

Why don;t you teenage kids actually read some books on the subject that aren't written by extremist loons

The 14 Tell-Tale Signs of Fascism
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.


Congratulations you're an idiot puddleglum.
Live every day as if already dead, that way you're not disappointed when you are. Big Grin
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: I cam show that Democrats fit all your criteria and it still means nothing

Game on


(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: 1. The general feeling, whether spoken out right, or kept not-so-subtly-hidden, of being better than others.
As in the Democrats view of republicans as being Dim witted hill billies or swamp dwellers, mumbling bible phrases in between believing everything on fox news.

You are almost right here Puddle. We do not denigrate on the basis of living on or near a hill or a swamp. The rest; however,...

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: 2.. Religious Xenophobia. Supporting a president who went to a black supremacist church
Yes, much better to support a President that spent his entire life in a church that was started by a convicted fraud from upstate NY in the 19th century, openly supported polygamy until they had to give it up as a condition of Utah becoming a state of the union, passionately prohibited blacks from enjoying religious acceptance until the late 70s (Romney was in his 30s, so no bullshit excuses), believes that he will one day be responsible as a god with multiple wives for the purpose of procreating souls for his own planet, and wears magic underwear for physical and spiritual protection.

At least try to have some perspective. My brother and mother are now devout LDS members, so I wouldn't suggest coming back at me from the Mormon angle.

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: 3 Patriotism as propaganda. The US Flag was everywhere at the democrat national covention (and so it should be)
Uh, was there a point here you failed to make?

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: 4Love of war. Didn't notice the war in Afghanistan ending...did you? Most wars in the last 100 years that the US has been involved in were started by Democrats...and so what?

Last 100 years? Are you really this fucking stupid. Did FDR 'start' our involvement in WWII? I suppose you have a theory on how the Democrats were involved in the planning of the bombing of Pearl Harbor. The Gulf War and current engagements in Iraq and Afghanistan can't possibly be attributed to any political party not named Bush.

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Love of radio propaganda. NPR is solidly to the left of US politics
Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Prager, O'Reilly, Savage, Ingraham, Beck, Schlessinger, Gallagher, Bennett, Medved, Liddy, Reagan, and an entire cast of local GOP mindless fucks vs. NPR.

The fact that an adult human being uses radio technology as proof of left wing propoganda...give me a moment...uh...whew...it actually takes my breath away.

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: The cult of the leader (fuehrer). That would be Obama. ONLY Obama has propagated the leader cult to the extent that children in schools have been forced to chant praise hymns to him. Criticizing him has lead to accusations of Racism.

I will actually give you this one. The videos of elementary school children singing praise were quite disturbing.

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Use of diversions. Obama used the economic crisis to spend billions bailing out failed motor vehicle companies who had solidly reliable democrat voting workers.
But, bailing out banks too big to fail was ok. Remember, TARP was Bush, not Obama. You choose sides for political expediency. I say they all should have taken a dive.

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Use of scapegoats. Democrats call opponents 'racists and Nazis'.

Republicans call opponents communists and socialists. I'm not sure I understand your point here.

(September 14, 2012 at 12:41 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Contempt for Democracy. The Obama regime has constantly given orders not to prosecute Black Nazis who intimidate voters or try and prevent election inspectors from doing their job.

I have a couple of points on this matter.

First, I do agree that some legal action should have been taken against the individuals at one precinct in Philadelphia where this was reported to have occurred IF there was justification to do so.

Second, if you are so insecure that a black man in a leather jacket waxing poetic outside your polling place has the ability to influence your vote in a private booth several minutes later, I would suggest that you should not be allowed to vote to begin with. Voter intimidation my ass. Disturbing the peace? Maybe. Voter intimidation, my ass.
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
I'm noticing a lot of Nazi BS coming from the conservative Democrats, which is why I have turned my back on them.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
1) You are almost right here Puddle. We do not denigrate on the basis of living on or near a hill or a swamp. The rest; however,...

So yes. I was right

2) Ies, much better to support a President that spent his entire life in a church that was started by a convicted fraud from upstate NY in the 19th century, openly supported polygamy until they had to give it up as a condition of Utah becoming a state of the union, passionately prohibited blacks from enjoying religious acceptance until the late 70s (Romney was in his 30s, so no bullshit excuses), believes that he will one day be responsible as a god with multiple wives for the purpose of procreating souls for his own planet, and wears magic underwear for physical and spiritual protection.

I actually don;t like either of them. I have merely proven my point again that the idiotic childish list can be applied to both sides saying 'ah but mine isn't as bad as yours' is irrelevant. Both candidates have been members of racist churches.


5) Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Prager, O'Reilly, Savage, Ingraham, Beck, Schlessinger, Gallagher, Bennett, Medved, Liddy, Reagan, and an entire cast of local GOP mindless fucks vs. NPR.

The fact that an adult human being uses radio technology as proof of left wing propoganda...give me a moment...uh...whew...it actually takes my breath away.

No just stating there is radio propaganda on both sides (actually hypocrite you attacked my use of propaganda elsewhere and you use it the same way)

6) Glad you saw that too. It was disgusting.

7) ut, bailing out banks too big to fail was ok. Remember, TARP was Bush, not Obama. You choose sides for political expediency. I say they all should have taken a dive.


So do I . You are arguing a strawman . I am not a republican. I have been a lifelong democrat. I even held my nose and voted for Obama 4 years ago.

8) Republicans call opponents communists and socialists. I'm not sure I understand your point here.

yes they do -they scapegoat each other.

9) First, I do agree that some legal action should have been taken against the individuals at one precinct in Philadelphia where this was reported to have occurred IF there was justification to do so.

So why didn't it happen?


Second, if you are so insecure that a black man in a leather jacket waxing poetic outside your polling place has the ability to influence your vote in a private booth several minutes later, I would suggest that you should not be allowed to vote to begin with. Voter intimidation my ass. Disturbing the peace? Maybe. Voter intimidation, my ass.


That was not my main problem -the idiot with the club -although had they been Nazis doing the same then radicals would be marching in the streets. the point is clear. Democrats are no better at holding up democracy than the GOP and what is worse corruption is vastly worse in Democrat controlled cities than GOP ones. Why didn't the thuig get arrested and charged? Apart from the fact that it gave a great peice of propaganda to fox news it was a slap in the face to democracy.

Trouble is we are crammed into two parties whereas our factions are miles apart from each other. I agree with these people....http://www.democraticfreedomcaucus.org I'm a fan of people like Russ Feingold and Mike Gravel. I also admire many of the stances taken by Dennis Kucinich. especially on Animal rights. I'm no Republican in anyway shape or form. If you think views have anything in common with people like Paul-fucking-Ryan then you are mistaken.

I am am going to hold my nose again and vote for Obama but I think he stinks, I just find the other ticket even more rotten.
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RE: 'Stop Calling us Nazis'
Quote:I am am going to hold my nose again and vote for Obama but I think he stinks, I just find the other ticket even more rotten.

definitely the best way.

shame there isn't single transferable voting. that'd make the fuckwits in the 2 parties think a little more.
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