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God approves of evolution
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??? the evolution of what??
 "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
(September 18, 2012 at 11:22 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:(September 18, 2012 at 11:12 pm)Drich Wrote: ??? the evolution of what?? I still don't know what you mean... For baptism is still required, Christ just added a the Spiritual element to Baptism. and in the last words of Christ why can't both be true?
In John it's not all that clear that Jesus was actually baptised by him.
The two things I quoted from the cross are arguably mutually exclusive. How can Jesus be clueless as to why God has abandoned him and then the next minute he says 'it is finished' like he knew what was happening all along? "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
 (September 18, 2012 at 11:32 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: In John it's not all that clear that Jesus was actually baptised by him. Could be that when Jesus cried out to the Father, all sin was being placed upon Him, when He said it was finished it could be He had received all sin upon Him and died from the burden.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 RE: God approves of evolution
September 19, 2012 at 1:43 am
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2012 at 1:45 am by Dumac Dwarfking.)
(September 19, 2012 at 1:40 am)Godschild Wrote:(September 18, 2012 at 11:32 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: In John it's not all that clear that Jesus was actually baptised by him. Could be that the story that had been circulating for forty years had undergone some exaggerations and changes as it was passed from pillar to post before eventually being written down by some anonymous Greek authors who had no affiliation with anyone involved in the event other than the stories they had heard from the churches they, no doubt attended. (September 19, 2012 at 1:43 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote:(September 19, 2012 at 1:40 am)Godschild Wrote: Could be that when Jesus cried out to the Father, all sin was being placed upon Him, when He said it was finished it could be He had received all sin upon Him and died from the burden. Strange how people can believe that the story of Christ changed so much in a short time after His resurrection, yet in the last 2000 years has not changed at all.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(September 19, 2012 at 1:51 am)Godschild Wrote:(September 19, 2012 at 1:43 am)Dumac Dwarfking Wrote: Could be that the story that had been circulating for forty years had undergone some exaggerations and changes as it was passed from pillar to post before eventually being written down by some anonymous Greek authors who had no affiliation with anyone involved in the event other than the stories they had heard from the churches they, no doubt attended. Funny how that happens once it's written down...
Even once it was written down they couldn't decide how the story went. Mark has 3 different ending after verse 8.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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