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Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
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RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
(November 8, 2012 at 3:41 am)Godschild Wrote: The cross is not a symbol of death and torture, it is a symbol of hope, it symbolizes the resurrection, it's a symbol of life, a symbol of triumph over death, the cross is to be displayed empty to give us the hope of freedom.
Hahaha. There's nothing special or unique about the cross. Nothing whatsoever. Tens of thousands of Jews were crucified upon them. JOSHUA would still be our Saviour, whatever the method of execution.
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#22
RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
(November 8, 2012 at 9:53 am)Daniel Wrote:
(November 8, 2012 at 3:41 am)Godschild Wrote: The cross is not a symbol of death and torture, it is a symbol of hope, it symbolizes the resurrection, it's a symbol of life, a symbol of triumph over death, the cross is to be displayed empty to give us the hope of freedom.
Hahaha. There's nothing special or unique about the cross. Nothing whatsoever. Tens of thousands of Jews were crucified upon them. JOSHUA would still be our Saviour, whatever the method of execution.

The Father planned for this very execution and for all those Jews they were just men, Christ is our God.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#23
RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
Does this mean that Judas (Iscariot, not Thaddeus) was only fulfilling this plan? How then could he have betrayed this Christ, simply for doing what he was supposed to do?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#24
RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
Earlier in history, the big-time execution method was death-by-giant-pole-up-the-arse. So whatever your views on the cross are, just be thankful we don't have big ornate arse-spikes everywhere.

You know what, nevermind. That would've been awesome.
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RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
(November 9, 2012 at 2:09 am)JosephBowie Wrote: Earlier in history, the big-time execution method was death-by-giant-pole-up-the-arse. So whatever your views on the cross are, just be thankful we don't have big ornate arse-spikes everywhere.

You know what, nevermind. That would've been awesome.

Well jesus on a pop-cycle stick would be a lot easier to produce that way.
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#26
RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
I can't even imagine what that might look like...

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Now I can't unimagine it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
(November 8, 2012 at 8:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Father planned for this very execution and for all those Jews they were just men, Christ is our God.
So your salvation depends on the method of execution? Does it also depend on whether or not Jesus taught for three years or just one? What about which his first disciple was, does it depend on that too?
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RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
(November 10, 2012 at 4:24 am)Daniel Wrote:
(November 8, 2012 at 8:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Father planned for this very execution and for all those Jews they were just men, Christ is our God.
So your salvation depends on the method of execution? Does it also depend on whether or not Jesus taught for three years or just one? What about which his first disciple was, does it depend on that too?

My salvation only depends on my acceptance of Christ and who He is, I'm not responsible for the circumstances of Christ's life, death and resurrection, they are what God planned. I accept these things as the truth of Christ's life, why, because He lived, died and resurrected in no other life. The OT is a testimony to the facts of His precious life and the precious gift it brought to all of mankind. Since Christ did not die another way, then this is all we have, so the cross is important, after Christ's ascension we have the work of God through man to bring the Gospel of Christ to the world.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#29
RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
Maybe this is how jesus REALLY died ...
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#30
RE: Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix
How about he never died and never lived:

"Christianity is a copycat religion created by Emperor Constantine (for political purposes) based upon a myth (The Persian savior god Mithra, crucified 600 B.C. ? 400 B.C.?), which was based on other similar myths, all the way back to Chrishna of India (a mythical god that some claim was “crucified” around 1200 B.C.). There were 16 mythical crucifixions before Christ. The belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion of Christ. Of the 16 crucifixions, most were born of a virgin and about half of them on December 25th.

There were too many religions in Rome in 325 A.D. A Council was called in an endeavor to amalgamate the many religions of the Roman Empire into one. Christianity plagiarized older myths and legends historicized to suit the Roman Catholic Church while combining the numerous religions existing at the time (Krishna, Horus, Mithraism, Osirian, Isis, and many other mystery religions). For unity and to stop all the conflicts between the numerous religions…

Christianity was INVENTED."

"It is not possible to find in any legitimate religious or historical writings compiled between the beginning of the first century and well into the fourth century any reference to Jesus Christ and the spectacular events that the Church says accompanied his life."

The whole book is available here for free:

http://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read...s-invented
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