RE: The seeming impossibility of a successful argument for Christianity
December 17, 2012 at 10:15 pm
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2012 at 10:38 pm by SpecUVdust.)
(December 14, 2012 at 11:43 am)pocaracas Wrote:And I would restate 2)as: The ordinary is probable, even expected, while the extraordinary lacks evidence and is improbable.(December 14, 2012 at 11:25 am)John V Wrote: @ OP:I'd restate 3) as: Current claims of observations of extraordinary events are not conclusive, as they can be explained by ordinary events. Hence, no extraordinary events are recorded in a sufficiently unbiased fashion to prove that they occur.
Your argument boils down to:
1. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
2. The ordinary is more probable than the extraordinary
3. Therefore the extraordinary doesn't occur
4. Therefore extraordinary claims can never be proven
However, 3 is fallacious.
THEISTS:
Please pay attention closely. I argue that ANY theists alive today are merely clinging or adding to an imagined fantasy realm with a focal point on the supernatural and a "reality" other than this(the only) one. SCIENCE on the other hand, exists here, always has, AND WE CAN SEE THIS. Science provides shitloads of proof that god doesn't exist and theists say " I don't believe it." Ok, if you don't, why not gather up all the " intelligent" theists, build a fucking laboratory, and study the shit yourselves!!! Maybe youll prove scientists wrong! Why wouldn't you wanna do that? Because you know the scientists are correct?
If we are undoubtedly wrong, then you could prove it once and for all with a little science, couldn't you??
If you want to save yourself the humiliation of spending the money for a lab only to prove yourselves WRONG, then admit you are wrong here and now. If not, you should, ethically, stop using phones, tv's, cars,planes, i.e. anything technological or modern, until you have the scientific data to prove "our" science. Maybe you all should live a life like a Quaker. At least you would be an honest idiot.