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Evolution: Full of Fiction
#41
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 3:49 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(December 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Amusing. Not one atheist can provide proof that evolution is true, can provide video footage of a species evolving into another species, or provide proof that any of the authors claiming that their alleged scientific evidence that evolution is true are speaking truthfully. Yet you still claim it's true.

The sheer delusion of atheism is uncanny. How the deluded stay delued. You gotta love the atheists. As you were.

*sigh* I don't know where to start with this one.

You didn't pay any attention, did you? Yes, we did provide videos where evolution was observed. Just do a simple youtube search for "evolution observed" and this is the second video you get. Watch it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a7ZPZQUfk

There's so many more examples of evolution being observed, though. Keep watching a few more hits I got:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKXTRiMt-8
(it's vocal only, but has legit points)

What's more, the point that you essentially just blew off is still a valid point: You're dismissing evolution because you believe that it has never been observed. I have not observed God, Jesus, Mohammed or any other supernatural phenomenon and I have never found a reliable source that has observed any of those. I'd be more than willing to bet neither you nor any reliable source that you know of has observed any supernatural phenomenon, have you? So, if you're dismissing one theory because it hasn't been observed, why are you so accepting of another theory that hasn't been observed?

Response: The video is not proof of a species evolving into another species, so it does not prove evolution. Secondly, physical change requires observation. If not, then tell us what color was just recently painted on the corner house of my street without anyone observing it to find out? Exactly. You can't. So if no one observed physical change of a species evolving into another, that alone proves that evolution is not scientifically proven.

(December 14, 2012 at 3:25 pm)Great Ape Wrote: Holy fuck are you serious?

We have witnessed evidence by examples. We have created artificial selection. Scientists can create models for natural selection and view how it takes place. People have been artificially selecting for thousands of years. Take wolves for example. We domesticated and created our own breeds of canines. As you see today, most of the breeds of dogs we have created do not fully resemble wolves but they are related genetically. So, what we see is the evidence that natural selection or selective breeding can modify an animal’s behavior and physical appearance to be very different than their ancestors. In the case of humans, we are genetically related to apes through a common ancestor but we do not fully resemble apes because of natural selection and selective breeding.

You've witnessed nothing. For if you did, you could easily provide video footage of a species evolving into another species. You can't, because it never happened. Evolution is false.
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#42
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Go home you're drunk.
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#43
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 4:58 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: Al-Fatihah, please watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm277H3ot6Y

...then stop your ridiculous statements.

Response: Or rather, provide some actual proof that evolution is true, other than the redundant brainwashed concept that it's true becasue my science book says so, even though I can't rove that the author is truthful.

......then sto your ridiculous statements.

(December 14, 2012 at 3:21 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Ha, I love it. You need to directly observe something for it to be true? I mean really, a Muslim is saying this? Did you directly observe Muhammad splitting the moon in two? Did you directly observe anything in your religion? The statement is so dumb, with a lack of understanding about how even basic science works, or even the scale of time that we are dealing with. Considering your own beliefs though, it's not only dumb but extremely hypocritical.

Response: To the contrary, your rebuttal is severely dumb, as the strawman attempts to bring religion means that you have no proof for the idiocy known as evolution. Thanks for clarifying how stupid evolution is.
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#44
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 6:21 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 14, 2012 at 3:21 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Ha, I love it. You need to directly observe something for it to be true? I mean really, a Muslim is saying this? Did you directly observe Muhammad splitting the moon in two? Did you directly observe anything in your religion? The statement is so dumb, with a lack of understanding about how even basic science works, or even the scale of time that we are dealing with. Considering your own beliefs though, it's not only dumb but extremely hypocritical.

Response: To the contrary, your rebuttal is severely dumb, as the strawman attempts to bring religion means that you have no proof for the idiocy known as evolution. Thanks for clarifying how stupid evolution is.

I'm not trying to clarify evolution, I don't care if you believe in evolution, I don't care if you believe we all came out of gopher holes, or Allah made us out of his butt-hair. Did you think I was? No no no, I'm just calling you a stupid hypocrite. For some reason stupid hypocrites amuse me. Can't explain why, they just do. Ha, I need to go read some more of the literary shit you are spewing all over the place. Do you perchance have a blog I could laugh at?
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#45
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I'm not trying to clarify evolution, I don't care if you believe in evolution, I don't care if you believe we all came out of gopher holes, or Allah made us out of his butt-hair. Did you think I was? No no no, I'm just calling you a stupid hypocrite. For some reason stupid hypocrites amuse me. Can't explain why, they just do. Ha, I need to go read some more of the literary shit you are spewing all over the place. Do you perchance have a blog I could laugh at?

Response: Likewise.

Atheism and evolution in a nutshell. Hit it Dawkins.

http://youtu.be/GxG4Kji-u28
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#46
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 6:21 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Or rather, provide some actual proof that evolution is true, other than the redundant brainwashed concept that it's true becasue my science book says so, even though I can't rove that the author is truthful.

......then sto your ridiculous statements.

OK then.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=...speciation

Thousands of them. You are wrong. Either learn & grow or stop wasting our time.

Evolution is fact.
Sum ergo sum
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#47
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
(December 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Likewise.

Atheism and evolution in a nutshell. Hit it Dawkins.



This blogpost does a pretty solid job of explaining why, well pretty much everything you are claiming is wrong.

I also find it quite amusing that you ask for video footage of evolution observed, but when presented with it, completely disregard it.

Oh and please stop putting "Response" in front of every response you´re giving. We know it´s fucking responses, albeit some pretty stupid ones
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#48
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Fuck's sake guys, stop responding to this cockroach. His actions deserve only one reaction and that is all he should get.

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#49
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Evolution in its simplest definition is a change in the frequency of alleles within a population over time. There is a literal shit ton of evidence that supports this. To begin with evolution has been observed. Antibiotic resistant bacteria and pesticide resistant insects are examples of observed evolution. Humans purposefully evolve other organisms through the use of both artificial selection and genetic manipulation. You only need to look to agriculture to see examples of both.

The fossil record is another line of evidence for evolution. Since evolution has been observed we don’t even need it to show that evolution is fact. Never the less we have a large and ever growing fossil record. While it is admittedly incomplete it is still a very good record of evolution. The distribution of fossils over both space and time supports evolution. It contains many examples of transitional forms. Nothing ever discovered in the fossil record is inconsistent with evolution.

In addition to the fossil record we have homologies such as skeletal structure, cellular and molecular similarities. That last one being the real smoking gun for evolution. Genetics is the best evidence for evolution. Everything we know about genetics is consistent with evolution. We know enough about genetics to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that not only is evolution a fact, but that the controversial to some hypothesis of common descent is also fact.

One type of genetic homology we have learned about are retroviral insertions. We know enough about retroviral insertions to prove common decent. A significant percentage of our DNA was put there at some point in history by viruses. These viral insertions can be identified then the similarities and differences can be compared between different species. This data can be used to construct a Phylogenetic tree that shows where hominoids split from old word monkeys, gorillas split from chimps and humans and humans split from chimps. The data is consistent with other lines of evidence, and nothing about it is inconsistent with evolution.

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#50
RE: Evolution: Full of Fiction
Yet, evolution has nothing to do with atheists. Evolution explains the diversity of life on this planet, atheism is the rejection of the claim that god(s) exist.

Al, want to shut us atheists up? Provide evidence for your particular god, ask him to show itself, why is it hidind anyway?
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