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**Aractus** · December 31, 2012 at 8:22 am

You never know, you may yet one day convert to the faith!

**Napoléon** · (This post was last modified: December 31, 2012 at 10:49 am by Napoléon.)

(December 30, 2012 at 11:44 am)FishnChips Wrote: I feel I am finally home and feel great honoring my true believe that there is no God. FINALLY!

Now you're just giving people like Daniel ammunition to say atheists believe god doesn't exist. That's really not what atheism is Facepalm

Oh well, welcome anyway.

**Aractus** · December 31, 2012 at 9:14 pm

^ You can't tell him what to believe, he has to make up his own mind.

Thanks for bringing to attention evidence for my position! Big Grin

**Minimalist** · December 31, 2012 at 10:56 pm

His beliefs are no more relevant than your own.

Evidence for your god boy is what is demanded.

**Napoléon** · January 2, 2013 at 10:01 pm

(December 31, 2012 at 9:14 pm)Aractus Wrote: ^ You can't tell him what to believe, he has to make up his own mind.

Thanks for bringing to attention evidence for my position!

I can correct someone when they call themselves an atheist yet say something that would contradict it.

Suck out.

**Aractus** · January 3, 2013 at 8:27 am

Sorry but you're wrong. His position (believes there is no god) is not incompatible with Atheism!

**Napoléon** · January 3, 2013 at 8:56 am

(January 3, 2013 at 8:27 am)Aractus Wrote: Sorry but you're wrong. His position (believes there is no god) is not incompatible with Atheism!

I'm getting rather tired of telling you to look up definitions in the dictionary Danny boy.

**Whateverist** · (This post was last modified: January 3, 2013 at 9:33 am by Whateverist.)

I hate to contradict my favorite forum cunt but why can't our newest member have a belief in no higher power if she wants? Gnostic atheists do exist. They're just a hell of a lot rarer (as a % of all atheists) than gnostic atheists. Few theists are very discerning about what they have good reason to believe when it comes to religious matters. Most atheists on the other hand will happily concede agnosticism but then also embrace defacto atheism. The effort required to maintain unwarranted beliefs seems to interfere too much with a person's cognitive equilibrium to allow them to concede agnosticism. But agnostic theists too do exist and I especially enjoy chatting with them.

Oops, where are my manners? Welcome F&C's. I'm just up the coast from you in balmy Berkeley, California. Moros S. is also in our general area but I don't know exactly where. My impression is that Southern Cal if rampant with churchy folks. My younger brother is one of them. Glad for you that you could escape.

**Napoléon** · (This post was last modified: January 3, 2013 at 6:18 pm by Napoléon.)

(January 3, 2013 at 9:25 am)whateverist Wrote: I hate to contradict my favorite forum cunt but why can't our newest member have a belief in no higher power if she wants?

I never said they couldn't Confused Fall

Quote:Gnostic atheists do exist

True, but to me this is a complete oxymoron. The very definition of atheism is lack of belief in a god or gods.

To then be absolutely positive to believe there aren't any at all, just seems foolish IMO.

I was just pointing out the difference between a lack of belief and a belief (something many people get wrong, sorry if I'm an ass about it). Atheism is a lack of belief in gods is it not? Hence why I was moaning at Dan to look in the dictionary, seems too many people have their own definitions of what atheism bloody is.

**Kayenneh** · January 3, 2013 at 8:44 pm

Hi! Good that you found us. Welcome to AF! ^_^

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