Transexuals

[paulpablo]

Im not a transexual nor have i ever spoke with one in my life but dont they normally say its because they feel comfortable like that? and im sure ive heard stories of some of them wanting to stay with thier wife even after the op so i dont think its about gayness.
In some cases, and this is just my theory it may be completely wrong, i think poor people do this in far east asian places for example, in order to be able to make money easier. Being a woman its easier to make money as a prostitute, but then they would have had to have quite a bit of money in the first place to be able to afford the op so im not sure if im right on this one

[BGChuckLee]

Hello, it has come to my attention that there is a transsexual amongst us. So I thought it was time to make a thread about this.

So... you're transsexual?

I am confused, why do people change sex in such a way?

Changing sex is not possible (currently). Why would you want to, anyway?

I read somewhere that those that change sexes, do not want to admit the fact that they are gay, so they say they are women born in a man's body. Is this true? is transexuality genetic or learned?

If that's true, why do many transpeople's sexual tastes do a 180 when they begin HRT?

Why wouldn't anyone want to admit that they are gay, anyway? Gay people have more fun

What's HRT?

Well, being gay in society has a stigma, and maybe their parents were anti gay.

I saw that first sentence and threw up in my mouth. If you had to make a statement like that, what's wrong with "Hello, it has come to my attention that there is a person amongst us"?

Making a thread about transexualism or any other sexual subject is fine, but opening it in the way you did was both distasteful and unfair. And I'm trying to be polite here.

I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I don't want anyone throwing up in my threads. I just want to know more about it.

[Violet]

A person who changes their sex is, as I get it, a person who does not want the body, or parts of it, they were born with, because they do not believe these parts are appropriate for the gender with which they personally identify. It's not about who you have sex with, but about how you wish to view yourself (and wish others to view you).

I still don't get it yall. What's all this nonsense about changing sexes anyway?

Plastic surgery and chemical changes upon a body ≠ changing someone's root DNA, and equipping them will full reproductive capabilities representative of their new sex.

It's complicated and I don't understand it well, but there's your gist.

No, it's actually so freaking simple that even trying to talk about it to anyone who does not know much about it practically has to involve an over-simplification and utter misrepresentation of what is actually happening.

People convolute it with the idea that something is changing about a person other than their appearance and satisfaction with life... leading to such completely ignorant terms as transgendered (the gender is not changing), and transsexual (neither is the sex).

Not that it's not possible for someone to be either of these things, only that the wide majority of the 'trans community' does not fit the bill delivered by these completely misleading words. Unfortunate then, that it is all we have

[BGChuckLee]

Im not a transexual nor have i ever spoke with one in my life but dont they normally say its because they feel comfortable like that? and im sure ive heard stories of some of them wanting to stay with thier wife even after the op so i dont think its about gayness.
In some cases, and this is just my theory it may be completely wrong, i think poor people do this in far east asian places for example, in order to be able to make money easier. Being a woman its easier to make money as a prostitute, but then they would have had to have quite a bit of money in the first place to be able to afford the op so im not sure if im right on this one

Interesting.
I know asian countries are not as accepting towards gayity than western countries, so a guy being with a transexual would be easier on them to have a gay lifestyle.

[Violet]

What's HRT?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_rep...nt_therapy

Take the undesired hormone, remove. Replace with desired hormone. Or in non-trans cases, do other such things.

Well, being gay in society has a stigma, and maybe their parents were anti gay.

Everything in society has a stigma, and parents and their offspring will rarely agree anyway. What sex/gender of person someone might want to bang is completely irrelevant, or rather: should be. Will be with enough time

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It has come to my attention that there is a dickhead among us.

Guess who?

The one-armed man! He did it!

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Im not a transexual nor have i ever spoke with one in my life but dont they normally say its because they feel comfortable like that? and im sure ive heard stories of some of them wanting to stay with thier wife even after the op so i dont think its about gayness.
In some cases, and this is just my theory it may be completely wrong, i think poor people do this in far east asian places for example, in order to be able to make money easier. Being a woman its easier to make money as a prostitute, but then they would have had to have quite a bit of money in the first place to be able to afford the op so im not sure if im right on this one

To simply make a vagina isn't particularly challenging, and it isn't where the large cost comes in. To make a pretty vagina, which might be able to deliver someone an orgasm, which won't be chronic pain for years to come, and with a high survival rate under anesthesia and with proper medical care afterward?

There's the kicker.

[BGChuckLee]

What's HRT?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_rep...nt_therapy

Take the undesired hormone, remove. Replace with desired hormone. Or in non-trans cases, do other such things.

Well, being gay in society has a stigma, and maybe their parents were anti gay.

Everything in society has a stigma, and parents and their offspring will rarely agree anyway. What sex/gender of person someone might want to bang is completely irrelevant, or rather: should be. Will be with enough time

Hmmm.. right, but you know that homosexuality has a certain kind of stigma, as in- there are many self hating gays, it would not be hard to believe that a homosexual would turn trans to be more acceptable in his own mind.
I'd like to see that too, although I am Christian, I don't agree with the big deal on homosexuality.

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Another thing that I am concerned about.

Since being trans was not possible during the time of jesus, as it is a modern result of plastic surgery. What would the Bible's stance be on transexuals? would they go to heaven? if so, how? would their false lady parts be left on earth, and the man will stay in heaven? would it come in the whole package? or would they get in heaven at all?

[Violet]

Hmmm.. right, but you know that homosexuality has a certain kind of stigma, as in- there are many self hating gays, it would not be hard to believe that a homosexual would turn trans to be more acceptable in his own mind.
I'd like to see that too, although I am Christian, I don't agree with the big deal on homosexuality.

If you think there's a stigma to being homosexual... just wait until someone finds out you are trans. Plenty of trans prostitutes meet their end like that. To say nothing of the public humiliation one might suffer if their 'stealth' (transmen and transwomen often leave behind their entire 'former lives' to begin anew as they feel they should have been from the start) is broken. The emotional trauma of losing many of your friends, and your job, and years of work tends to do that to someone.

Transpeople even had to fight for recognition from the GL(B) community. Maybe you're used to seeing GLBT(QIetc) these days... but it wasn't always that way. They're in a better spot now than they've been in the past, but the road is far from ended

There are homosexual women too, you know Cock ain't all it's crocked up to be.

[Ryantology]

A person who changes their sex is, as I get it, a person who does not want the body, or parts of it, they were born with, because they do not believe these parts are appropriate for the gender with which they personally identify. It's not about who you have sex with, but about how you wish to view yourself (and wish others to view you).

I still don't get it yall. What's all this nonsense about changing sexes anyway?

Plastic surgery and chemical changes upon a body ≠ changing someone's root DNA, and equipping them will full reproductive capabilities representative of their new sex.

It's complicated and I don't understand it well, but there's your gist.

No, it's actually so freaking simple that even trying to talk about it to anyone who does not know much about it practically has to involve an over-simplification and utter misrepresentation of what is actually happening.

People convolute it with the idea that something is changing about a person other than their appearance and satisfaction with life... leading to such completely ignorant terms as transgendered (the gender is not changing), and transsexual (neither is the sex).

Not that it's not possible for someone to be either of these things, only that the wide majority of the 'trans community' does not fit the bill delivered by these completely misleading words. Unfortunate then, that it is all we have

I humbly stand corrected.

[BGChuckLee]

Hmmm.. right, but you know that homosexuality has a certain kind of stigma, as in- there are many self hating gays, it would not be hard to believe that a homosexual would turn trans to be more acceptable in his own mind.
I'd like to see that too, although I am Christian, I don't agree with the big deal on homosexuality.

If you think there's a stigma to being homosexual... just wait until someone finds out you are trans. Plenty of trans prostitutes meet their end like that. To say nothing of the public humiliation one might suffer if their 'stealth' (transmen and transwomen often leave behind their entire 'former lives' to begin anew as they feel they should have been from the start) is broken. The emotional trauma of losing many of your friends, and your job, and years of work tends to do that to someone.

Transpeople even had to fight for recognition from the GL(B) community. Maybe you're used to seeing GLBT(QIetc) these days... but it wasn't always that way. They're in a better spot now than they've been in the past, but the road is far from ended

There are homosexual women too, you know Cock ain't all it's crocked up to be.

Omg, I have so many questions!

First off, rather than asking vaguely. Why did you personally become trans? Since, as you said, you have to give up a lot to do it, so you must have a strong reason as to why. (I wanted this thread to be anonymous as to who I was talking about, but I guess the cat is out the bag now.)

Also; you said that some trans can like women too? omg. that is so confusing, I can't get my head around that...

And is the hormone replacement drugs healthy? Some times, I think I have an imbalance of female hormones, as I have a very feminine face- yet strong jaw line, very contrasting features.

[Violet]

Another thing that I am concerned about.

Since being trans was not possible during the time of jesus, as it is a modern result of plastic surgery. What would the Bible's stance be on transexuals? would they go to heaven? if so, how? would their false lady parts be left on earth, and the man will stay in heaven? would it come in the whole package? or would they get in heaven at all?

Castration. Your ancient answer to being a transwoman. Not perfect, but all they had. Soy beans help afterwards, but obviously aren't available everywhere. More popular now that the answer isn't agonizing pain with only the result of removing an unwanted body part. Transmen didn't have an option, and still don't have equitable options. For all the love of penis in this world, they haven't figured out how to make one ('perfectly', that I know of, i might be wrong).

Why do you assume a metaphysical realm would hold any similarities or remaindered to/from a physical world? Further, why would it be the modified male body which made it there... and not the woman's soul/mind?

If heaven's all it is said to be, and involved the novel concept of 'bodies'... then yes, a transman would be a fully reproductively equipped male, and a transwoman a fully equipped female.

Where genderqueer individuals fit in is anyone's guess.