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Redeeming the American Way
#51
RE: Redeeming the American Way
Especially considering whenever I try and get fr0d0 to justify himsef, on the matter of his beliefs...that he just dodges and calls me unorignal for asking him so many times....well guess what fr0d0!: you ignore /dodge my point a great many times!

I am quite happy with my conclusion that at least when I'm repetitive, I try to explain myself. Rather than just repeating bare assertions.

I get a bit frustrated sometimes when I will post a lot as I do...and fr0d0 will basically just say something like "No it makes sense. You're wrong" :S

EvF
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#52
RE: Redeeming the American Way
I pointed out the illogicality of Meatballs post, which was proved to stand by Pippy's thanks (meaning he confirmed that this is not what he meant, and EV concurred). EV then forgets why he concurred. Yes the conditional was literally logical but not to anyone with an ounce of common sense. Meatball set out to ridicule clearly, and EV gave a recommendation for this.

As well as anyone having a right to recommend what the hell they like, using whatever reasoning stupid or not, I have the right to point out what I think is stupid reasoning. Sometimes you come across as a bent dictator Eilonnwy.
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#53
RE: Redeeming the American Way
Frodo, I'm sorry I offended you by calling Pippy a fucking idiot.
- Meatball
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#54
RE: Redeeming the American Way
(August 28, 2009 at 4:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I pointed out the illogicality of Meatballs post, which was proved to stand by Pippy's thanks (meaning he confirmed that this is not what he meant, and EV concurred). EV then forgets why he concurred. Yes the conditional was literally logical but not to anyone with an ounce of common sense. Meatball set out to ridicule clearly, and EV gave a recommendation for this.

As well as anyone having a right to recommend what the hell they like, using whatever reasoning stupid or not, I have the right to point out what I think is stupid reasoning. Sometimes you come across as a bent dictator Eilonnwy.

Whatever, I'm just pointing out how ridiculous you two are being. Your bantering over the stupidest point completely derailed the conversation. Good job.

And fr0d0 sometimes you come off as a disingenuous prick.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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#55
RE: Redeeming the American Way
I'm disagreeing with him. I don't give a shit about whether it's stupid or not, he's moaning about me recommending a post and I find that fucking laughable, lmfao.

As I said fr0d0 - why, were you offended or something? And if not, it does no good to say his post was illogical and not explain it...

To quote myself as to avoid the paraphrasing Tongue

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Quote:Pippy seems to imply in his post that the same people who did 9/11 and flew the planes, then 'rounded up the americans' into attacking Afganistan..???

You then say that Meatball is suggestiing exactly something that Pippy is not....what is Pippy suggesting then? Cos I don't get it because it seems to totally imply that to me....?

So I've already dealt with this...yet you simply just repeat that Meatball made no sense and Pippy never said such a thing, can you explain that or not then? Because the implication seems correct to me...and Pippy saying "thanks" was just him being sarcastic when meatball insulted him, which has nothing actually to do with Meatball's point, only to do with the insult.

EvF
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#56
RE: Redeeming the American Way
(August 28, 2009 at 7:47 am)Meatball Wrote: Frodo, I'm sorry I offended you by calling Pippy a fucking idiot.

Lol ^_^
But seriously guys, I am born American, but really don't want to be one. That kind of defection is not something a country should ever have.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#57
RE: Redeeming the American Way
I just explained this point exactly above EV you plank.

I'd imaginie that's why I think most people here are disingenuous pricks too Elionnwy my sweet. It arises from ones personal perspective. Get a grip and smell the mustard.

"Frodo, I'm sorry I offended you by calling Pippy a fucking idiot."

See I like Meatball's point. He's a fucking idiot Big Grin
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#58
RE: Redeeming the American Way
Above you said: "I pointed out the illogicality of Meatballs post, which was proved to stand by Pippy's thanks (meaning he confirmed that this is not what he meant, and EV concurred)." - which is not an explanation, it's an assertion. I responded to this, I think more than once now...and you just say you've explained it...no, as always you asserted it.

I'm not talking about the insult, I'm saying that that the implications in Pippy's post that Meatball speaks of, appear indeed to be there. You have explained how they're not, you've just asserted stuff (as you so often do).

EvF
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#59
RE: Redeeming the American Way
Well that's revealing then. The truth of this matter is less important to you than the semantics. We're all aware what Pippy meant, but you would like to think the question is still not understood. You can't see the wood for the trees... you concern yourself with the fine point of exact language usage rather than wanting to acknowledge what is really being said.
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#60
RE: Redeeming the American Way
It seems to me that the implication is that Pippy was suggestiing something that a 911 'truther' would say?

'We're all aware what Pippy meant' you say...and what's that? All I know is that he meant what he said...and what he said to me seems to imply what Meatball pointed out that it seems to imply to him.

I don't know what you are talking about. I'm taking what Pippy said and Meatball's response and trying to understand it at the best of my ability...I don't know what you're on about..you haven't explained... what do you mean 'we all know'? As far as I'm concerend the implication's that Meatball pointed out are there. What else does Pippy mean then?

No the truth of the matter is what's important to me. But in this case it can only be understood through the language, which is what I'm trying to do...

Semantics is never as important to me as the truth of the matter...however - you barely assert that I care more about semantics than truth...I never said this and I don't believe you genuinely think that it is more important to me than truth, so I think once again you're making a bare assertion, and the fact that I would think you'd know by now that the truth is what's important to me..I think that makes your claim, your bare assertion, quite possibly a disingenious one.

EvF
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