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Earth - Proof of God?
RE: Earth - Proof of God?
(February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.

To be fair, calling what man does "unnatural" is merely our anthrocentric point of view appearing before us again. As being part of nature, what we do is natural, it is natural to us to do what it is we do, as it is is our nature.
Also here we're getting into a matter of opinion. Red is better than blue, green is better than red. Nature is better than man-made things.

From a practical standpoint, I think you'll disagree with yourself there, for as other people have been kind enough to point out, houses are unnatural. Clothes are unnatural. Medicine, electronics, technology of any kind, is unnatural. I dare say you'd not be in favour of washing yourself in a river when you have a bath or shower available. It's much safer, you know.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
(February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote:
(February 16, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Who says it is?

The earth, the creatures on it, even the universe it inhabits, is the culmination of billions of years of physical processes working ceaselessly, constructing and reconstructing the natural world over and over. And the process is hardly completed, either. Wink Why does a thing need a designer to be beautiful?

Hey, actually: why is it that things touched by man are unnatural and therefore bad, and yet things you believe were designed by god are beautiful? In your mind, both things have designers, both things are as unnatural as the other. Think about that.

Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.

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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
(February 18, 2013 at 1:08 am)Question Mark Wrote:
(February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.

To be fair, calling what man does "unnatural" is merely our anthrocentric point of view appearing before us again. As being part of nature, what we do is natural, it is natural to us to do what it is we do, as it is is our nature.
Also here we're getting into a matter of opinion. Red is better than blue, green is better than red. Nature is better than man-made things.

From a practical standpoint, I think you'll disagree with yourself there, for as other people have been kind enough to point out, houses are unnatural. Clothes are unnatural. Medicine, electronics, technology of any kind, is unnatural. I dare say you'd not be in favour of washing yourself in a river when you have a bath or shower available. It's much safer, you know.

Humans need four things to survive (and it is natural knowledge that we do): food, water, clothing, and shelter. So I do not mock any sort of cooking, clothing, or housing.

I do mock deforestation, large buildings, other industrialization that subtracts the nature around it.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
That's actually rather depressing...

To think we've got to wait nearly two more centuries.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
I think when god goes, some one will steal his corpses so they can claim he has performed a miracle and risen again.

Oh, wait, already happened. You don't think anyone will be stupid enough try this trick again next time, do you?
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
(February 19, 2013 at 12:04 am)Stimbo Wrote: That's actually rather depressing...

To think we've got to wait nearly two more centuries.

Unless you go with the Hebrew calender (it is a stone tablet, after all), then he died before Moses was born.

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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
In monotheisms - sin is another example of something that is contradictory

A "sin" is defined as an offense against a god.

IN a monotheism - the god is the ONLY power of creation - and it must have created everything - good and evil - and would therefore be the Ultimate of BOTH good and evil. (The devil is a created being - and does not have the power of creation)

Therefore - as the Ultimate evil - what would be something that could be called a sin. Remember - sin is NOT what is considered to be an offense - it is what actually is. SO for the ultimate evil - you cannot do something more evil than the god.
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