Geert Wilders

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Criticize Islam long enough and you'll catch a bullet sooner or later. Now tell me, are those who pull that trigger Brad Pitt or Kate Winslet?

No they are extreme muslims and sure do not represent all muslims. That's why I dislike Geert Wilders so much...but if you criticize that religion you'll meet the extremists. The rest of your essay on Hollywood is in no way a serious response to what I wrote.

[WinterHold]

Criticize Islam long enough and you'll catch a bullet sooner or later. Now tell me, are those who pull that trigger Brad Pitt or Kate Winslet?

No they are extreme muslims and sure do not represent all muslims. That's why I dislike Geert Wilders so much...but if you criticize that religion you'll meet the extremists. The rest of your essay on Hollywood is in no way a serious response to what I wrote.

Arabs are simple people, this is how they think about it -I live with them-.

If you happen to interact with local arabs, you'll see that they're connecting everything with anything ; they would link the "innocence of Islam" with hollywood which is connected to masonic zionist antichrist organization which hates Islam just because they hate Islam..a mess that doesn't make any sense, but proves one point : muslims are angry on the west because of hollywood.

It's not rational, I do agree with you, it's stupid & gives a bad name to our religion to kill somebody who criticized us.

The conclusion of my previous post is that, Arabs & now all muslims, are just like a nerd who got bullied so much in school, he went home,brought his daddy's gun & stormed the school killing everybody.

It's wise to say that the kid is insane & wrong, but it's also true that "bulling" was the reason behind his madness.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Usually the extremists here are sons or grandsons of hardworking immigrants. I consider them fully Dutch, not Arab.
Luckily their sisters are working their way up in the universities fast...ending the problem in a matter of time.

[Aractus]

No it isn't. Kicking people out of the country because of their race is known as racism.

Actually it has nothing to do with their race, it has to do with their political ideology and religion.

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But Aiming for the religion ? this would cause a disaster.

As I said many times, the person who fights Islam as a religion publicly -with the attempt to mock, kick out & ban-, is signing his/her own decline in popularity & political destruction.

Islam is a big religion, with almost billion followers, it would be an insult to all billion ; it's not a wise political move. Not Islam only, even other religions.

Take Mohammed Morsi -the current Egyptian president- as an example.

He called the jews -before he become president- : the sons & daughters of pigs and monkeys. After saying that ; the guy signed his own political death.

Germany ignored him, mostly all western countries gave him the finger, he's now trying to make an alliance with the most isolated countries in the world and egypt is dying because of what he said.
It's not a wise move to attack a certain religion.

So Morsi's comments were rogue were they? What about this Egyptian children's programme?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0R4bfPm_iU

[Dee Dee Ramone]

No it isn't. Kicking people out of the country because of their race is known as racism.

Actually it has nothing to do with their race, it has to do with their political ideology and religion.

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Kicking Arabs & middle easterns out is personal freedom since its your own country.
But Aiming for the religion ? this would cause a disaster.

This has everything to do with race, not nationality, and clearly not with political ideology or religion. Kicking out people? As if the muslims are on holiday...no.
I'd hate my country if we kicked out people for being muslim and if some extremist turns violent, we throw them in jail not in Saoudi Arabia....since they are Dutch...whatever their race.

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I quess Aractus is not reacting to atlass but to geert wilders :-)

[WinterHold]

Usually the extremists here are sons or grandsons of hardworking immigrants. I consider them fully Dutch, not Arab.
Luckily their sisters are working their way up in the universities fast...ending the problem in a matter of time.

That's a good point actually, I can't deny that I thought about this for sometime.



this is very complicated.

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So Morsi's comments were rogue were they? What about this Egyptian children's program?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0R4bfPm_iU

I see nothing wrong in what he said. Aractus, a brief study of Israel's history would just point you to the right direction.

Are you forgetting the massacres, mass bombardment over arab cities & mass graves that were found all around Palestine ?








When the west stood against hitler for massacring the jews, nobody blamed them, nobody blamed america for having an atomic weapon to prevent people like hitler from hearting them again.

Tell me, Aractus, how do you see Israel different than hitler -at least hitler didn't bomb schools-, and what do you want us arabs to do ?

Lay on the ground with our butts up, waiting for the zero hour when Israel decides to expand its borders ?

[Aractus]

I see nothing wrong in what he said. Aractus, a brief study of Israel's history would just point you to the right direction.

Are you forgetting the massacres, mass bombardment over arab cities & mass graves that were found all around Palestine ?

AtlasS, your defence to Islam being a malevolent violent force is that "but the Jews are worse, the Jews are violent, etc". You think their violence excuses yours.

Tell me, Aractus, how do you see Israel different than hitler -at least hitler didn't bomb schools-, and what do you want us arabs to do ?

Oh you're so full of shit. You should listen to yourself.

OK. Here's the top-20 list of places where I will be oppressed/persecuted for being Christian (in order, the worst of the worst at the top):

North Korea
Saudi Arabia
Afghanistan
Iraq
Somalia
Maldives
Mali
Iran
Yemen
Eritrea
Syria
Sudan
Nigeria
Pakistan
Ethiopia
Uzbekistan
Libya
Laos
Turkmenistan
Qatar

Those in bold are Muslim countries. Tell me, exactly how many Jewish countries will I be oppressed in?

See this

[Dee Dee Ramone]

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When the west stood against hitler for massacring the jews, nobody blamed them,

The western government never stood against the massacre of the jews, it is hardly mentioned during world war 2. The war never started to save the jews and other minorities.

nobody blamed america for having an atomic weapon to prevent people like hitler from hearting them again.m

Indeed, because Hitler was defeated before the first bomb was used in action, in Japan...and Japan started that freaking war against the US.

Tell me, Aractus, how do you see Israel different than hitler -at least hitler didn't bomb schools-, and what do you want us arabs to do ?

Whatever you think of how the situation in the occupied terrorities is, it's still a marginal conflict compared to the 60 million people or so that lost their live in world war 2. And if you think Hitler didn't give order to bomb schools, you're right. He orderded to bomb entire cities. Your attempt to tone down Hitler's atrocities shows an enourmous lack of historical knowledge.

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Lay on the ground with our butts up, waiting for the zero hour when Israel decides to expand its borders ?

Your ignorance of facts, and of that of most of the people in Israel and Palestine, is part of the problem...next to religious fanatism ofcourse on both sides.

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Those in bold are Muslim countries. Tell me, exactly how many Jewish countries will I be oppressed in?

In 100% of the jewish countries, Israel, muslims are oppressed. What's your point?

[Brakeman]

I changed the religion from Islam to Judaism now feel with me;

I changed your religion to other cons and deceits, now feel with me:

1 We need to get rid of the Street gang headquarters, those horrible crackhouses!!!
2 In Society there's only room for law abiding citizens. All conmen must leave our safe society, including those in poor areas.
3 There's a tsunami of criminals in the west.
4 Let's put a tax on those awful crime inducing vices.
5 Let's claim the streets back from the swindlers!
6 Al Capone, the head of the mafia.

Bring it on Dee Dee and I'll piss all your arguments away. Geert Wilders is, at a minimum, opposing a dangerous sect of deluded lying conmen.
There is no god, so all religions are deceits. There is no virtue in defending freedom of expression, when that expression is untrue, hurtful and damaging to society. We don't defend the white collar crooks that steal by ponzi scheme nor do we defend the blue collar crooks that steal by tricking little old ladies into signing their SS checks over for imaginary repairs.

There is no truth in any religion. They are just high pressure gangs that enrich their selves by manipulating with fear. I applaud all those who fight to expose the evil in religion, regardless of their base motives.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Criminalizing an entire religious group and denying their freedom of expression. Please, stop wasting my time Brakeman.