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Is the muslim god fair?
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RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 11, 2013 at 7:12 am)Stue Denim Wrote: What about Libertas, Justitia (Justice personified), Dysnomia, the pandeistic dead gods, the deistic gods who are off doing their own thing and perhaps unaware of us...

These gods are by definition unfair dictators?

Don't forget DEATH! Nice bloke, I think anyway Big Grin
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#12
RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 11, 2013 at 8:50 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: I really dont know what you want?! In another thread you said people were equal?!
People are not equal
It is justice, which means that God applies the same rules over all people
For example punish sinners, or reward good doers
But it depends on what God gave them and what they are doing
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#13
RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 3:44 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: People are not equal
It is justice, which means that God applies the same rules over all people

nope he doesnt.

A kid between a muslim and a non muslim has to be given to a muslim, non muslims have to pay taxes, and non muslims are generaly suppressed.

Your gods laws do not treat everyone equaly, and you yourself pointed that out.

Quote:For example punish sinners, or reward good doers
But it depends on what God gave them and what they are doing

idiotic example.

You fail to understand the concept that a justice system may treat criminals different from inocents - yet in order to be just - has to treat every participant of sociaty equal and give them the same rights.

Which your god, does not.

But what to expect from someone who cannot see the difference between a panis and a vagina.
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RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 3:56 am)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(March 12, 2013 at 3:44 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: People are not equal
It is justice, which means that God applies the same rules over all people

nope he doesnt.

A kid between a muslim and a non muslim has to be given to a muslim, non muslims have to pay taxes, and non muslims are generaly suppressed.
You don't understand the meaning of justice
The same rules applies, but as the rules include parameters like being a Muslim or not then it apply differently
Same like giving a fine for speed driving, they don't fine people who are driving below speed limits.

Quote:You fail to understand the concept that a justice system may treat criminals different from inocents - yet in order to be just - has to treat every participant of sociaty equal and give them the same rights.
Exactly
A non-Muslim is a criminal in the Islamic view
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RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 4:13 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: You don't understand the meaning of justice
The same rules applies, but as the rules include parameters like being a Muslim or not then it apply differently
Same like giving a fine for speed driving, they don't fine people who are driving below speed limits.

incompetence at it`s lowest. damn, what a lazy thinker you are.
Driving above speed limit is a crime and not a parameter which determines if one deserves equal treatment. You are the one who clearly has no idea of how a justice system works.

A justice system only has one single parameter:

All people have the same rights in public and in court.

That is it.
Your proposed justice system ignores that and treats people indifferently according to their gender and faith.

We have went through this 3 times. Are you to thik to understand this?
Do you not understand the difference between equality and inequality?

Quote:Exactly
A non-Muslim is a criminal in the Islamic view

Thereby your justice system does not give equal rights to everyone!

You contradict yourself in one and the same post.

Have you considered getting help for you lingual and mental problems of getting stuff so confused that you dont even realise when you contradict yourself or attribute meanings to words which these actualy dont have.
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#16
RE: Is the muslim god fair?
It would seem that our "Muslim Scholar" is a poe... or like so many of the muslim clergy, has no idea of anything outside the Qur'an
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#17
RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 4:45 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Thereby your justice system does not give equal rights to everyone!
It is the same
As you chooses to be an infidel then you committed a crime
That is why you are treated differently
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#18
RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 6:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is the same
As you chooses to be an infidel then you committed a crime
That is why you are treated differently

Well, now you finaly spit it out.

Wasnt that hard was it?

You see not being a muslim as a crime.

Well there is nothing else for me to say to a fashist scumbag like you.
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RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 6:26 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: You see not being a muslim as a crime.

Well there is nothing else for me to say to a fashist scumbag like you.
It is the biggest crime you can do!
Can you prove otherwise???

it is actually very rational and consistent, If Islam is the true religion and God created you to worship him, then not doing that is worst thing you can do

If Islam is not true, then it won't change anything

You are trying to use circular logic to prove that Islam is false!
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#20
RE: Is the muslim god fair?
(March 12, 2013 at 8:38 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is the biggest crime you can do!
Can you prove otherwise???

it is actually very rational and consistent, If Islam is the true religion and God created you to worship him, then not doing that is worst thing you can do

If Islam is not true, then it won't change anything

You are trying to use circular logic to prove that Islam is false!

You dont even know the meaning of circular logic you fool!

I stand with the principles that every human has the same equal rights!

And it is these principles which have created a free, open and just system.

A system of peace because it doesnt accept moral absolutes and is created on the principles of change in power and political reevaluation.

For your system to actualy have a legitemate claim to power, you must first give convincing proof that your god is real, a proof which can provide the evidence that change of power and reevaluation is no longer needed.

A proof which convinces people that they are infirior

A proof which withstands scientific scruteny!

And even if you can prove his existance! His appartheit regime will cause his and his followers downfall!
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