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[UNCgirl]

I just saw a post on a website where someone said the bible predicted that Israel would become a nation and therefore the bible is true because it predicted that. What would your response be to that?

I am new to this forum so I may not be posting this question in the right place. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

[Minimalist]

One has to use the typical tortured reasoning of bible-thumping fools....and add in a major helping of not knowing shit from shinola.

http://www.therefinersfire.org/jews_retu...israel.htm

[Ike963]

I would respond:
Does a person who wins the lottery win by predicting the right numbers, or was he just guessing and it happened to be right?

Theists want to rationalize coincidences, and attribute value and meaning to them to support their belief in fate, or god's plan. If that single event is the basis for evidence, find an instance in the bible that hasn't happened, like a second coming, or a great flood.

[Baalzebutt]

I predict that tomorrow, March 7th, most people in the United States will eat lunch.

Get back to me tomorrow when we can determine if this actually occurred.

At that time, I will begin accepting your rightful worship of my proven status of Diety.

[Mister Agenda]

A lot of people went to a lot of effort to make that prophecy come true.

[paulpablo]

I just saw a post on a website where someone said the bible predicted that Israel would become a nation and therefore the bible is true because it predicted that. What would your response be to that?

I am new to this forum so I may not be posting this question in the right place. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

I would want to see the exact statement and how vague it is. My prediction is that it will be quite vague.
Also it means nothing, the bible also contains noahs ark, and adam and eve.

[UNCgirl]

This is the exact quote:

Here is God telling Israel they will not only be a nation again, but when they do become a nation they will not build walls as they did in the day this prophecy was given, and God is also prophesying that Israel will be invaded after the time of regathering out of the nations:

8 After many days thou shalt be visited. In the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste; but it is brought forth out of the nations and they shall dwell safely, all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm. Thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou and all thy troops, and many people with thee.
10 “‘Thus saith the Lord God: It shall also come to pass that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought;
11 and thou shalt say, “I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls and having neither bars nor gates”—
12 to take a spoil and to take a prey, to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited and upon the people who are gathered out of the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land.

I just saw a post on a website where someone said the bible predicted that Israel would become a nation and therefore the bible is true because it predicted that. What would your response be to that?

I am new to this forum so I may not be posting this question in the right place. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

I would want to see the exact statement and how vague it is. My prediction is that it will be quite vague.
Also it means nothing, the bible also contains noahs ark, and adam and eve.

[Minimalist]

That's from Ezekiel 38.... and is a single cherry-picked line.

Ezekiel 38 (King James Version)

1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying , 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say , Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back , and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth , and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: 6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. 7 Be thou prepared , and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. 8 After many days thou shalt be visited : in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

Apparently we all missed the big "battle."

[Something completely different]

I just saw a post on a website where someone said the bible predicted that Israel would become a nation and therefore the bible is true because it predicted that. What would your response be to that?

I am new to this forum so I may not be posting this question in the right place. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

The bible probably added to the creation of Israel.

Because it gave christians all over the world a justification for antisemitism.

[Angrboda]

Gog and Magog are some of my favorite biblical references. I don't know why.