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Salvia Divinorum
#21
RE: Salvia Divinorum
Guess what fr0d0, we agree on something! It's a miracle!

Superstitious bollocks it is indeed!

Kudos+1

EvF
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#22
RE: Salvia Divinorum
EvF,

Well, those two beliefs are on the two ends of the belief spectrum. I HAVE to be honest and admit that I STILL believe in a soul even though I see the evidence as being weak. I pretty much KNOW I will have a job tomorrow so it would take some huge event to shake my belief in that. I was demonstrating how belief is a spectrum.

Wow, I got Fr0d0 and EvF to agree on something! I should be a marriage councilor or something! Smile

Rhizo
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#23
RE: Salvia Divinorum
That's different strengths of your certainty in a belief. That's not a spectrum of belief, but of certainty.

You believe both, just the former is weaker than the latter. Right?

And I am just questioning the fact you believe the former at all, considering this 'weak' evidence is actually just completely invalid - i.e. not evidence - in my view.

EvF
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#24
RE: Salvia Divinorum
I Heart this Kudos button Smile

Oh, and @Rhizo: the reason EvF and Fr0do argue so much... is that they are already married ^_^

Joke
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#25
RE: Salvia Divinorum
(September 3, 2009 at 12:04 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I'd rather be mesmerized by the awesome music, than have the extra addition of being doped out, meaning that I wouldn't be aware of the awesome tunage so much.

Just a heads up, increased appreciation of music is a well documented effect of almost all hallucinogens.

If you took a horse tranquilizer and listened to your favourite album, I could buy that argument. But not with Marijuana or other psychoactives.
- Meatball
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#26
RE: Salvia Divinorum
(September 6, 2009 at 1:54 pm)Meatball Wrote: Just a heads up, increased appreciation of music is a well documented effect of almost all hallucinogens.

Speaking from experience, you are very much correct.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#27
RE: Salvia Divinorum
I'd rather be mesmerized by music... and STILL have control over my body and mind Smile
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#28
RE: Salvia Divinorum
That is presupposing that you don't, and there are plenty substances around where you are still capable of controlling yourself. But Salvia is not one of them.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#29
RE: Salvia Divinorum
That is evident on the fact that the drugs are called: Hallucinogens. Hallucinate, anyone? That, to me, is a loss of control over my senses (and so too my mind).
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#30
RE: Salvia Divinorum
There is a difference in levels though. Not every mushroom spaces you out into a vegetable.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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