Proving God Existence

[ideologue08]

So, no, then?

So sheep then?

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By sheep, you mean "people who expect assertions to be supported with facts or at least strong logic."

No, by sheep, I mean actual sheep. Can you give an example of a non-theoretical understanding of infinite?

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It's not to the conceptual aspect I was objecting but to: "...nothing can be of infinite time time in the future or history or have an infinite number of real elements."

That can only be decided by empiral evidence. Otherwise, the most one can say is" "It is possible that nothing can be of infinite time in the future or history or have an infinite number of real elements."

Can you get that straight?

His point was very clear; he was proposing the notion of a theoretical and conceptual infinite and was making the point that actual physical infinite does not exist either in time or in elements. Now, if you're a tough guy, you will give us an example of non-theoretical infinite and prove it to us, present the evidence of an actual infinite because the burden is on you. Do I make myself clear?

[little_monkey]

you will give us an example of non-theoretical infinite and prove it to us, present the evidence of an actual infinite because the burden is on you. Do I make myself clear?

Get real. The burden of proof lies on the shoulder of the one who made the blatant assertion.

[ideologue08]

Get real. The burden of proof lies on the shoulder of the one who made the blatant assertion.

So if I say "unicorns don't exist", the burden of proof would be on me to prove that they don't exist? You are really are an ignorant little fucker aren't you? Now are you going to show us an example of non-theoretical infinite or are you going to carry on acting like the ignorant schmuck you are?

[Dragonetti]

Get real. The burden of proof lies on the shoulder of the one who made the blatant assertion.

So if I say "unicorns don't exist", the burden of proof would be on me to prove that they don't exist? You are really are an ignorant little fucker aren't you? Now are you going to show us an example of non-theoretical infinite or are you going to carry on acting like the ignorant schmuck you are?

So, with that logic process in place. If I say you are a "Pedophile," you have the burden of proof of proving it is not true.

[little_monkey]

Get real. The burden of proof lies on the shoulder of the one who made the blatant assertion.

So if I say "unicorns don't exist", the burden of proof would be on me to prove that they don't exist?

Absolutely.

You are really are an ignorant little fucker aren't you?

Thanks for the insult, as if that will prove your case. LOL.

Now are you going to show us an example of non-theoretical infinite

Had you read my statement correctly, you wouldn't be asking this. What's to prove with:

"It is possible that nothing can be of infinite time in the future or history or have an infinite number of real elements."

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or are you going to carry on acting like the ignorant schmuck you are?

Stop projecting yourself, it won't look good on your resumé.

[ideologue08]

So, with that logic process in place. If I say you are a "Pedophile," you have the burden of proof of proving it is not true.

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Absolutely.

So you are an ignorant schmuck then? You think the burden of proof is on the person who lacks the evidence to believe in something?

Had you read my statement correctly, you wouldn't be asking this.

I have read your statement properly, you were unhappy at the fact that Muslim scholar didn't believe in actual non-theoretical infinity due to lack of evidence. You placed the burden of proof on him, when in fact it is on you.

What part of lack of evidence for actual infinite====> rejection of actual infinite don't you understand??????

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This is a blatant assertion with no evidence supporting it.

The above was your response when Muslim Scholar rejected non-theoretical infinite. You said to him: "No evidence supporting it". Why the fuck would he have to prove something he has no reason for believing in due to a lack of evidence?????????

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Stop projecting yourself, it won't look good on your resumé.

What would you know about a CV, I'd be surprised if anyone ever hired a schmuck like you.

[little_monkey]

Absolutely.

So you are an ignorant schmuck then?

So besides dishing ad hominem attacks what else are you good for?

You think the burden of proof is on the person who lacks the evidence to believe in something?

Your statement wasn't: "there is a lack of evidence in the existence of unicorns", but "Unicorns don't exist". In case you haven't figured that out, those two statements are different.

I have read your statement properly, you were unhappy at the fact that Muslim scholar didn't believe in actual non-theoretical infinity

Again you got that one wrong. It wasn't a belief he was expressing, but an assertion he was making. Big difference. Had he said, "I believe that nothing can be of infinite time in the future or history or have an infinite number of real elements." Then it would be fine. But he didn't.

The above was your response when Muslim Scholar rejected non-theoretical infinite. You said to him: "No evidence supporting it"

And I stand by that. There's a difference between: "you are guilty", in which I would have to prove my case; and, "I believe you are guilty" in which I'm expressing an opinion.

Why the fuck would he have to prove something he has no reason for believing in due to a lack of evidence.

Again, he wasn't expressing a belief. He was asserting a proposition. Either that proposition is true or false. And he has the burden to prove it that it is true.

[ideologue08]

You're absolutely correct there, yeah, I thought he said believe as well, he didn't, neither did I for that matter. You're right on this one, I was wrong, sorry about that. Muslim Scholar phrased it incorrectly intentionally or unintentionally I don't know.

[little_monkey]

You're absolutely correct there, yeah, I thought he said believe as well, he didn't, neither did I for that matter. You're right on this one, I was wrong, sorry about that. Muslim Scholar phrased it incorrectly intentionally or unintentionally I don't know.

Hopefully, MS will come back and clarify it. If he meant it as a belief, though I wouldn't agree with him, then it is his opinion, and he is entitled to his opinions. However, if he meant it as a true proposition, based on a deduction then he needs to prove it. As it is, his so-called proof is really circular reason. So that's not a proof.

Joe

[downbeatplumb]

Get real. The burden of proof lies on the shoulder of the one who made the blatant assertion.

So if I say "unicorns don't exist", the burden of proof would be on me to prove that they don't exist? You are really are an ignorant little fucker aren't you? Now are you going to show us an example of non-theoretical infinite or are you going to carry on acting like the ignorant schmuck you are?

Yes the burdon of proof is with the claim maker.
Now prove the non-existence of unicorns.

And remember they may be timeless and have no physical properties because apparently that's a thing.

Go.