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RE: Proving God Existence
November 21, 2013 at 8:10 am
(November 21, 2013 at 1:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (November 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Chas Wrote: You can't possibly know any of this - you have no experience with it, you have no evidence of it.
You have thrown reason out the window.
Exactly,
Science or observation cannot know anything about what is outside
Only logic can be used and the proof is based only on logic that is why it is irrefutable
And logic can only function on the data you feed into it, data which you have just conceded that you cannot know. We're back to guessing what's in the green box again.
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 28, 2013 at 3:22 am
(November 21, 2013 at 8:10 am)Stimbo Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 1:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Exactly,
Science or observation cannot know anything about what is outside
Only logic can be used and the proof is based only on logic that is why it is irrefutable
And logic can only function on the data you feed into it, data which you have just conceded that you cannot know. We're back to guessing what's in the green box again. Correct
but not knowing some information doesn't violate what we already know/prove
so what is proved is true, what is beyond that it is still unknown
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 28, 2013 at 6:12 am
(November 21, 2013 at 1:33 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (November 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Chas Wrote: You can't possibly know any of this - you have no experience with it, you have no evidence of it.
You have thrown reason out the window. Exactly,
Science or observation cannot know anything about what is outside
Only logic can be used and the proof is based only on logic that is why it is irrefutable
Apart from the countless times it's been refuted yes, you're right.
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 28, 2013 at 6:18 am
(November 28, 2013 at 3:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Correct
but not knowing some information doesn't violate what we already know/prove
It would, if what you don't know is something pertinent to the things you "know/prove" and drastically alters your perception of it.
For you, I'd say you could find a lot of those things in high school math and science classes. Possibly elementary school, since I wouldn't want to tax you.
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 28, 2013 at 7:33 am
(November 28, 2013 at 6:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: (November 28, 2013 at 3:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Correct
but not knowing some information doesn't violate what we already know/prove
It would, if what you don't know is something pertinent to the things you "know/prove" and drastically alters your perception of it.
For you, I'd say you could find a lot of those things in high school math and science classes. Possibly elementary school, since I wouldn't want to tax you.
Didn't he once say he had a PhD from Caltech?
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 28, 2013 at 9:27 am
(November 28, 2013 at 7:33 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Didn't he once say he had a PhD from Caltech?
Well, yes, but then he also claimed to have proved god and refuted evolution, in addition to more mundane lies I've caught him at.
I'm sure he believes his claims are justified. I'm also sure they are in error.
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 28, 2013 at 12:57 pm
(November 28, 2013 at 3:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 8:10 am)Stimbo Wrote: And logic can only function on the data you feed into it, data which you have just conceded that you cannot know. We're back to guessing what's in the green box again. Correct
but not knowing some information doesn't violate what we already know/prove
so what is proved is true, what is beyond that it is still unknown
Except you haven't given one Islamic text that says god created the universe out of water, I've given you several examples of god creating things from nothing which violates logic.
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RE: Proving God Existence
November 29, 2013 at 12:32 am
(November 28, 2013 at 7:33 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Didn't he once say he had a PhD from Caltech?
All that shows is that we can add a guideline of minimum requirements for earning a PhD to the list of things he could educate himself on, because I'm pretty sure they don't just let you draw your own in crayon. 
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RE: Proving God Existence
December 5, 2013 at 3:09 pm
OP, you have convinced me that Allah is really really real. And that means.. The Koran is real... And there really are 70 virgins waiting for me in the afterlife. I feel so much better now, thank you.
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RE: Proving God Existence
December 5, 2013 at 3:11 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 3:09 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: OP, you have convinced me that Allah is really really real. And that means.. The Koran is real... And there really are 70 virgins waiting for me in the afterlife. I feel so much better now, thank you.
You know your virgins are all male nerds, right?
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