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Conflicting statements in the bible
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: God didn’t drown His children, Noah and his family were spared.

So not only does God kill his children by drowning, but he also plays favorites by only killing the children he doesn't like.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:30 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: So not only does God kill his children by drowning, but he also plays favorites by only killing the children he doesn't like.

No, God saved His children; those whom He drowned were not His children.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:26 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(June 13, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Those drowned were not God’s children.

We're all God's children. Is that not what children are taught in Sunday school?

Well what they didn't say in the bible was that God disowned some of his children because instead of getting a job and moving out they just laid around the house doing drugs and being lazy, then started giving God back talk when he told them they needed to straighten up. I think part of the problem was that they hung out with the wrong crowd.

Is that what you're trying to say, Waldork?

(June 13, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, God saved His children; those whom He drowned were not His children.

So we're all God's children until we commit sin? Then none of us are God's children.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: So if they're not God's children then it's alright to kill them? Is that the message of morality we can take from that story?

We all deserve death, so I see no issue with God giving someone what they deserve, do you?

(June 13, 2013 at 5:26 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: We're all God's children. Is that not what children are taught in Sunday school? You might want to reevaluate your arguments, because the shit you spew is just that.

I go by what the Bible teaches, not what kids are taught in Sunday school. If you’re going to argue against Biblical Christianity, I suggest you learn what the Bible actually teaches as well.

Quote: Biblical morality does not predate humanity.

Sure it does, it’s rooted in God’s character and God’s character pre-dates all that is material.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, God saved His children; those whom He drowned were not His children.

I go by what the Bible teaches, not what kids are taught in Sunday school.

Interpreting the Bible to suit your own opinion. Nothing new, really, but disappointing because I was expecting a real debate with you rather than the regurgitated stuff every one else spews. It is rather sad that there has to be so many different interpretations, Christians even hating Christians, when they all believe in the same God all because they disagree on what scripture is conveying. Please, share with us some more of your supposedly holy interpretations that far outshine that of all other Christian scholars.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
We all deserve death...

Would you be alright with me slaughtering some babies since we all deserve death anyway?
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: So we're all God's children until we commit sin? Then none of us are God's children.

No, where do you keep getting this idea that we’re all God’s children? God has one son, Christ. We are adopted as His children when we are saved by grace. An unrepentant person destroyed in the flood was never one of God’s children.
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(June 13, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Sure it does, it’s rooted in God’s character and God’s character pre-dates all that is material.

God is younger than man, for it is man who created God as he also learned morality for the sake of clan survival.

(June 13, 2013 at 5:43 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: God has one son, Christ.

And what an unexemplary example of fatherhood he displayed by killing his own son. A sacrifice, by the way, which was anything but, considering that Jesus did not remain dead. What kind of sacrifice could it have been if he rose from the dead three days later?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:41 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Interpreting the Bible to suit your own opinion. Nothing new, really, but disappointing because I was expecting a real debate with you rather than the regurgitated stuff every one else spews. It is rather sad that there has to be so many different interpretations, Christians even hating Christians, when they all believe in the same God all because they disagree on what scripture is conveying. Please, share with us some more of your supposedly holy interpretations that far outshine that of all other Christian scholars.

An atheist who has never actually read the Bible, nothing new. It’s not a matter of interpretation, scripture never says that we are all God’s children, that’s pure 19th century liberalism; I go by what scripture says.

(June 13, 2013 at 5:42 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: We all deserve death...

Would you be alright with me slaughtering some babies since we all deserve death anyway?

No, that’s not your prerogative.

(June 13, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: God is younger than man, for it is man who created God as he also learned morality for the sake of clan survival.

No, God created man.

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And what an unexemplary example of fatherhood he displayed by killing his own son. A sacrifice, by the way, which was anything but, considering that Jesus did not remain dead. What kind of sacrifice could it have been if he rose from the dead three days later?

Bearing the wrath of God for all of the sins of God's elect is quite the sacrifice.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 13, 2013 at 5:52 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: An atheist who has never actually read the Bible.

I have read the bible. As Asimov stated, Properly read, the bible is the greatest force of atheism ever conceived.

(June 13, 2013 at 5:52 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, God created man.

Yet you remain wrong. Man created God.

(June 13, 2013 at 5:52 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Bearing the wrath of God for all of the sins of God's elect is quite the sacrifice.

For an all powerful God, why did He have to put on the Broadway show? Surely, an all powerful being can eradicate sin with a snap of his fingers. Why sacrifice his son?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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