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Quran, 19 and Chemistry?
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With enough shifting numbers around, I can make it look like any pattern I want.
Just like the number 1 appears everywhere. Hell it is 19!!!!!!!! Fibonacci's Number pattern appears in many natural settings. 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21, ...
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CleanShavenJesus
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I'm not sure what this is supposed to be proving.
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water ![[Image: YAAgdMk.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2FYAAgdMk.gif)  (April 23, 2013 at 8:33 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: I'm not sure what this is supposed to be proving. Me neither. I think they think it is miraculous that their number 19 appears in the periodic table... Though I think it is interesting that Potassium, element 19, is actually an exception because of its three isotopes rather than two or one like all the other elements with odd atomic numbers. I'm not really deep into chemistry so I don't know if this has a natural explanation as well, but there must be one, I guess. But the part with the "pure-isotopes" is wrong anyway. Wikipedia at least says there are 22, not 19. Or did I get something wrong?
They are using the number 19 as a reference to prove their holy text is correct, and therefore there is a God.
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Numerology and [insert holy text name here] is nothing new. Infact I have seen things that are more impressive, in a crazy way, wityh the old testament numerology.
But let us attack the article part by part. 1- Promethium and Technetium are not artificial elements. They DO occur in nature although in minute quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promethium#Occurrence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technetium#...production Secondly, if this were true, Quote:This property is very rare in the Quran because only 3 prime number suras added with their verses and basmallah give a multiple of 19: the 13, 43 and 61. Then, why exclude element 13 from the whole discussion. Shouldn't be Aluminium be as artificial as Tc or Pm? 3- The following is not exactly true Quote:Radioactive elements begin with the element 84, the Polonium: a radioactive element gives energy by the spontaneous disintegration of atomic nuclei (to disintegrate = to separate into parts or fragments, to rupture or split (Websters college dictionary). Radioactive elements begin with Tc (43). It is the smallest atomic number with no stable isotopes. All forms of Technetium are radioactive. 4 - In counting the number of verses, sometimes the article includes in the count the "Bismillah" (Which is traditionally said at the beginning of each sura except the 9th) and sometimes he omits it. In my opinion, the connection between the Periodic table and the Koran is flimsy at best. If anything, that article should have made me think there's something magical about the Periodic table itself. I am more impressed with the writings of Democritus and his atomic theory. If you want to talk about miracles... there's one!
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