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Hello from an exmuslim!
#41
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
Nah....Mota didn't suck. He was quite a good player.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Mota

Quote:In 1973, Mota was selected to the National League All-Star team after leading the league in batting average.
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#42
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
@mota About the Arabic greeting I reknown that I didn't build my phrase correctly.

About my knowledge in Arabic this is because I like foreign languages (Also I live in an area that I can qualify like a Muslim ghetto , they are peacefull [temporary , when they will be the majority I suppose that they will try to apply the sharia like in some parts of Denmark , UK , Norway etc...]) they speak in dialectal Arabic (I can't understand dialects easily) I prefer MSA.

You know in my district all Friday we can hear the Adhan for the third prayer.
In my knowledge we can find many zones under sharia in Western Europe and more in Nothern Europe.

UK :
1.Reportage from Russia Today : youtube.com/watch?v=cYFzrEIzoHE
2.Muslims in Action : youtube.com/watch?v=jifNKGQKg9c
3.An article by Dominik Lemanski who was shared by Taslima Nasreen
in freethoughtblogs.com (I don't know the political orientation of this website) : http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/file...the-UK.jpg
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#43
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
(May 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Nah....Mota didn't suck. He was quite a good player.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Mota

Quote:In 1973, Mota was selected to the National League All-Star team after leading the league in batting average.

Cool. Big Grin

(May 24, 2013 at 4:15 pm)viocjit Wrote: @mota About the Arabic greeting I reknown that I didn't build my phrase correctly.

About my knowledge in Arabic this is because I like foreign languages (Also I live in an area that I can qualify like a Muslim ghetto , they are peacefull [temporary , when they will be the majority I suppose that they will try to apply the sharia like in some parts of Denmark , UK , Norway etc...]) they speak in dialectal Arabic (I can't understand dialects easily) I prefer MSA.

You know in my district all Friday we can hear the Adhan for the third prayer.
In my knowledge we can find many zones under sharia in Western Europe and more in Nothern Europe.

UK :
1.Reportage from Russia Today : youtube.com/watch?v=cYFzrEIzoHE
2.Muslims in Action : youtube.com/watch?v=jifNKGQKg9c
3.An article by Dominik Lemanski who was shared by Taslima Nasreen
in freethoughtblogs.com (I don't know the political orientation of this website) : http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/file...the-UK.jpg
Oh, crap. I thought I could leave this bullshit behind after leaving this country and live a religion-free life. I guess I'll have to re-think my plans.

Regarding the arabic dialects, almost no one uses MSA currently, especially in spoken Arabic. So learning a dialect I think is very important if you want to go deeper. The good news is that if you understand one dialect, you'll probably be able to understand more than 90% of other dialects. For example, even though I'm saudi, I can understand the egyptian or iraqi dialects very well. But the dialects used in Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia are pretty different from those used in Libya, Egypt and the other arab countries in asia. So even though they still speak arabic, it's hard for me to understand them, and vise versa. I guess your country's invasion in the past is the reason. Tongue
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#44
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
(May 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm)mota Wrote: Regarding the arabic dialects, almost no one uses MSA currently, especially in spoken Arabic.
When I went to the kingdom I spoke almost exclusively MSA.

(May 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm)mota Wrote: But the dialects used in Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia are pretty different from those used in Libya, Egypt and the other arab countries in asia.
I wouldn't even classify what the magrebi countries speak as arabic, some of them have thick french accent anyway, so there's no chance understand what the hell they're on about.
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#45
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
Learn a dialect is a good idea I already thought about it , but which dialect ?
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#46
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
(May 24, 2013 at 4:57 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:
(May 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm)mota Wrote: Regarding the arabic dialects, almost no one uses MSA currently, especially in spoken Arabic.
When I went to the kingdom I spoke almost exclusively MSA.
Sure, people will understand what you're saying, because we learned MSA from the quran and the school texts. But were you able to understand the conversations around you?
(May 24, 2013 at 4:57 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:
(May 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm)mota Wrote: But the dialects used in Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia are pretty different from those used in Libya, Egypt and the other arab countries in asia.
I wouldn't even classify what the magrebi countries speak as arabic, some of them have thick french accent anyway, so there's no chance understand what the hell they're on about.
Well, I agree with you that their dialects are far away from arabic. But it's still considered an arabic dialect.
(May 24, 2013 at 5:01 pm)viocjit Wrote: Learn a dialect is a good idea I already thought about it , but which dialect ?
Depends on why you want to learn in the first place, and which country you want to understand better. I'd say in general egypatian may be a good choice, almost every arab understands it.
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#47
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
(May 24, 2013 at 5:42 pm)mota Wrote: Sure, people will understand what you're saying, because we learned MSA from the quran and the school texts. But were you able to understand the conversations around you?
I could understand most of it yeah, especially what they were saying to me when I spoke to them, if they weren't speaking MSA then they were damn close to it since it was very understandable.
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#48
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
(May 24, 2013 at 5:51 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:
(May 24, 2013 at 5:42 pm)mota Wrote: Sure, people will understand what you're saying, because we learned MSA from the quran and the school texts. But were you able to understand the conversations around you?
I could understand most of it yeah, especially what they were saying to me when I spoke to them, if they weren't speaking MSA then they were damn close to it since it was very understandable.
Wow, I didn't know that before. I actually thought that an arab from a non-GCC country will have a hard time understanding the saudi dialect.
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#49
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
(May 24, 2013 at 5:58 pm)mota Wrote: Wow, I didn't know that before. I actually thought that an arab from a non-GCC country will have a hard time understanding the saudi dialect.
Maybe they were speaking MSA to me on purpose when they heard me? I couldn't really understand much of what the south Asians were saying over there but the Arabs would pretty understandable.
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#50
RE: Hello from an exmuslim!
Serious respect for you my friend. Just be careful until you get to the UK alright. Then you can be yourself.
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