What if...

[p90powa]

I myself strongly believe in evolution and science. But am I weird to wonder, What if everyone is wrong? What if evolution AND creationism is completely wrong and something no one in their wildest dreams thought of is really true for making humans and animals? Now don't get me wrong, am I going to reject evolution because of my wild thoughts? Of course not. I strongly believe in evolution . But I always wonder, what if we are completely wrong? And not just about evolution. About the creation of the universe and what happened before it and everything? I just like to think about these questions.

[ideologue08]

Well, I believe a lot of people are wrong and that bad consequences will happen for being wrong. You might hate me for it but you can't accuse me of not warning you.

[p90powa]

Well, I believe a lot of people are wrong and that bad consequences will happen for being wrong. You might hate me for it but you can't accuse me of not warning you.

Well if it's being wrong on a question you couldn't really figure out, then it's no fault of your own. For example lets say a teacher gives a math test and there is one question that says "how many cylinders does a 1997-2004 buick regal have?" Well not everyone is going to know that, and being wrong is fine in that case.

[NoraBrimstone]

What is north is really south? What if gravity doesn't exist? What if my name isn't my name? What if the internet is all a conspiracy against you? What if aliens invaded when you were sleeping and killed everyone in the world except you and replaced them all with robotic replicas? What if I'm a ghost and don't realise I'm dead? What if our universe is a sumulation? What if the Matrix is real?

[Tonus]

[p90powa]

What if everything is a lie?

Fixed it for you

[Minimalist]

I have a slightly different take on the initial question. Mainly creatards try to set up a dichotomy in which they think that Evolution and Creationism are equivalent theories. Thus they think that all they have to do is create imaginary problems with Evolution and their bullshit becomes true by default. But even if evolution is completely wrong that in and of itself provides no evidence for some celestial sky-daddy, as our towel-headed friend above seems to think. Sorry, abdul, your bullshit remains bullshit until you have evidence to support it.

If you want to have some fun, try this: Next time one of these morons starts in say "for the sake of argument, let's say you are right. Evolution is wrong. NOW, show me all the scientific evidence you have that all life started 6,000 years ago in the Middle East."

The silence will be deafening because they have never considered the problem from that angle.

[p90powa]

I have a slightly different take on the initial question. Mainly creatards try to set up a dichotomy in which they think that Evolution and Creationism are equivalent theories. Thus they think that all they have to do is create imaginary problems with Evolution and their bullshit becomes true by default. But even if evolution is completely wrong that in and of itself provides no evidence for some celestial sky-daddy, as our towel-headed friend above seems to think. Sorry, abdul, your bullshit remains bullshit until you have evidence to support it.

If you want to have some fun, try this: Next time one of these morons starts in say "for the sake of argument, let's say you are right. Evolution is wrong. NOW, show me all the scientific evidence you have that all life started 6,000 years ago in the Middle East."

The silence will be deafening because they have never considered the problem from that angle.

I just never understood how life can be only 6000 years old. What the hell happened to all the ancient civilizations before that? Even if carbon dating was wrong. What about the grand canyon and all the layers and shit? o.o Now I am no scientist. I am probably talking out of my ass. But I am just saying.

[Minimalist]

The Maori Creation Myth.

The Separation of Heaven and Earth

All humans are descended from one pair of ancestors, Rangi and Papa, who are also called Heaven and Earth. In those days, Heaven and Earth clung closely together, and all was darkness. Rangi and Papa had six sons: Tane-mahuta, the father of the forests and their inhabitants; Tawhiri-ma-tea, the father of winds and storms; Tangaroa, the father of fish and reptiles; Tu-matauenga, the father of fierce human beings; Haumia-tikitiki, the father of food that grows without cultivation; and Rongo-ma-tane, the father of cultivated food. These six sons and all other beings lived in darkness for an extremely long time, able only to wonder what light and vision might be like.

Finally the sons of Heaven and Earth decided something must be done. Tu-matauenga, the father of fierce human beings, urged his brothers to slay their parents. However, Tane-mahuta, the father of the forests and their inhabitants, argued that they should separate their parents, making Rangi the distant sky over their heads and Papa the earth close to them like a mother. After long debate, the brothers agreed to this plan, except for Tawhiri-ma-tea, the father of winds and storms, who was distraught at the idea of separating their parents. The other brothers nonetheless proceeded with their plan.

Rongo-ma-tane, the father of cultivated food, rose and struggled to separate his parents, but he could not do it. Tangaroa, the father of fish and reptiles, also struggled but could not tear them apart. Haumia-tikitiki, the father of food that grows without cultivation, had no better luck at separating their parents. Tu-matauenga, the father of fierce human beings, likewise failed. Tane-mahuta, the father of the forests and their inhabitants, slowly rose up and struggled, but with little success. Then he put his head against the earth and, with his feet against the skies, slowly pushed them apart. His parents cried out in anguish, asking how their sons could do this, but Tane pushed and pushed until the sky was far above. As light spread across the earth, the multitude of humans that Rangi and Papa had parented were revealed.

Tawhiri-ma-tea, the father of winds and storms, was furious that his brothers had so cruelly separated their parents and thrust their father away. Tawhiri-ma-tea followed his father and hid in the sky and plotted his revenge. Soon he sent down storms and squalls and fiery clouds and hurricanes to punish his brother Tane-mahuta, the father of the forests and their inhabitants, breaking off the tall trees and leaving the forests in shambles. Likewise the storms swept down on the oceans of Tangaroa, the father of fish and reptiles, and piled up waves and generated great whirlpools. Tangaroa, frightened by the havoc in oceans, dove deep to escape Tawhiri-ma-tea's wrath.

Tangaroa abandoned his two granchildren, the father of the fish and the father of the reptiles. The fish and reptiles were left not knowing what to do, and they debated how to escape the storm. Finally, the reptiles fled to the land and hid in the forests, and the fish fled for refuge to the sea. Tangaroa, angered at the reptiles' desertion and the forests' willingness to receive and protect them, now struggled with Tane-mahuta, the father of the forests and their inhabitants, who in turn fought back. Thus Tane provided the canoes, spears, and fish-hooks from the trees, and nets woven from fibrous plants, to capture the fish of Tangaroa's seas, and Tangaroa's waves attacked the shores of the forests, washing away the land and all the life it holds.

Tawhiri-ma-tea, the god of winds and storms, also lashed out at his brothers Haumia-tikitiki, the father of food that grows without cultivation, and Rongo-ma-tane, the father of cultivated food, for their role in the separation of his parents and exile of his father. However, Papa, the earth-mother whom the brothers had taken as their home, clasped up Haumia-tikitiki and Rongo-ma-tane and held them close in her to save them from Tawhiri-ma-tea's fury.

Only Tu-matauenga, the father of fierce human beings, withstood Tawhiri-ma-tea's wrath as the winds and storms attacked. Tu-matauenga was impervious, having planned the death of their parents and having been abandoned by his brothers on the Earth. When Tawhiri-ma-tea's gales finally subsided, Tu-matauenga began to plan his revenge on his cowardly and weak brothers. First he turned to Tane-mahuta, the father of the forests and their inhabitants, both because Tane had abandoned him and because he knew Tane's offspring were increasing and might ultimately overwhelm Tu-matauenga's human progeny. Taking the leaves of the whanake tree, he made them into snares and hung them in the forests, where he caught Tanes's offspring and subdued the forest. Then he took on Tangaroa, the father of the seas and its life, and with nets he dragged Tangaroa's children from the seas. With a hoe and basket he dug up the children of Haumia-tikitiki, the god of food that needs no cultivation, and Rongo-ma-tane, the god of cultivated food. He dug up all kinds of plants and left them in the sun to dry, to gain revenge on those two brothers.

Tu-matauenga, the father of fierce human beings, thus consumed all his four brothers on Earth, and they became his food. Only one brother, Tawhiri-ma-tea, the god of winds and storms, remained unconquered, and to this day his storms attack human beings on both land and sea in revenge for the rending of Heaven and Earth.

In truth....it isn't much stupider than the genesis bullshit story.

[Mystical]