Another day another American gun rampage.

[Doubting Thomas]

Obviously if more people had guns then they could have prevented this. [/NRA]

Too bad the idiots at the NRA and their gun nut followers don't seem to realize that rather than trying to win a shootout, it's better to prevent the shootout in the first place. Yes, armed citizens can shoot & kill armed homicidal maniacs, but you also have to deal with innocent bystanders and crossfire.

[Minimalist]

Yes, armed citizens can shoot & kill armed homicidal maniacs,

More likely to shoot themselves or some innocent bystander. Hard to aim right when you are shitting in your pants.

[Dragonetti]

Most armed citizens will shit their pants and run. You have to train under stressed situations to maintain self control for a battle. The fight or flight concept takes over, and most people would rather run away, which I cannot blame them.

It is a sad day to see fellow people killing each other.

But, the raise in gun sales are still a minority. The people who are buying more guns are the same people who have guns.

There is nothing like the smell of gun powder in the morning. I had to go to the range this morning. Index figure is sore from all the firing.

[Silver]

it's better to prevent the shootout in the first place

In the famous words of Doctor Who played by Matt Smith: Violence does not end violence; it extends it.

[littleendian]

But, but... but if the king of England comes riding all self-important and pompous to Washington on his big horse, who is going to stop him? Huh? If the Americans aren't armed with assault rifles?

You tree hugging earth-loving commie pacifist hippies, get a job and then buy a gun from that paycheck to protect your beloved homeland!



Most scary: The sales of the particular assault rifle used a few months ago to kill dozens of children went through the roof afterwards. In-sane.

[Tiberius]

Santa Monica... Suburb of L.A.... Where your chances of getting a permit to lawfully carry roughly correspond to the volume of your campaign donations.

I'm not suggesting that it would have made a difference at all, but it's not any wonder why no armed citizens came to aid in a jurisdiction where it's illegal to carry.

Unfortunately, concerning gun control, you either need to let everyone have guns, or ensure that nobody gets them, otherwise you end up with stupid situations like this. Criminals will always break the law; it's what they do. This is why I believe it's better to let everyone have guns rather than just having the government and criminals with all of them. By all means, put some control over crazy people getting them, but banning them completely whilst they are still in the hands of criminals is a ridiculous idea.

[NoraBrimstone]

Actually, we're waiting for William to be King before we send a King in on his horse. (We were going to send Charles, but Camilla refused to carry him.) Do you think William is in the Royal Air Force for nothing? It's preparation for the invasion. So many Americans love him (not by accident, I can assure you) that many will take our side straight away. Guns or no guns.

[Zen Badger]

Ok, I'm gonna have to buy a sniper rifle now....




And of course, Kichi will want one..

Let the arms race begin.

[downbeatplumb]

Ok, I'm gonna have to buy a sniper rifle now....




And of course, Kichi will want one..

Let the arms race begin.

Can I play?

[popeyespappy]

I notice he was taken out by cops and not armed citizens.

You would think that all these people with guns would've been able to protect themselves.

Santa Monica... Suburb of L.A.... Where your chances of getting a permit to lawfully carry roughly correspond to the volume of your campaign donations.

I'm not suggesting that it would have made a difference at all, but it's not any wonder why no armed citizens came to aid in a jurisdiction where it's illegal to carry.

Not only this but both the rifle and the magazines it is being reported were used have been illegal for most people to obtain in California since before the shooter was born.