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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm
(July 28, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Is this a show that is televised in the UK?
Yup, but you can find bits and pieces (and whole episodes, I think) on YouTube.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm
(July 28, 2013 at 1:45 pm)iAisha Wrote: world cant be an organized as you see it without a god
Not only can the world be organized as we see it without god, but per William of Ockham's principle of lex parsimoniae god is the least likely answer. The fact that you don't see how it could be otherwise is merely argumentum ad ignorantiam.
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm
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(July 28, 2013 at 1:45 pm)iAisha Wrote: is it possible for a country to be developed without a governor ?
it is same
No it's not, for the very simple reason that a governor of a country would be provably and undeniably real. S/he would at the very least be seen making speeches and doing oother country-governing things. Where is this god you claim is running things?
(July 28, 2013 at 1:45 pm)iAisha Wrote: world cant be an organized as you see it without a god
Okay, that's the claim. You began by asking what kind of evidence would prove your god's existence. Let's start with this one. Show some evidence that the world is organised and that a god is necessary to do that.
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm
see
this is a philosophy but i can clarify little of it
we will focus on the characteristics
example of a door and the woodworker
woodworker makes the door and the door has its own characteristics
then it is not correct to ask who makes the woodworker
because he is the one who makes the door
but we Can say who creates the woodworker
see
door is non lived thing
but the woodworker is alive being
so the questions of from where each of them come is differ
same as asking from where god comes
this question raised because we say god created the man
this question cant be asked
because we dont say there is a common characteristics between god and the human
which is in this situation is that both god and man are created
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm
(July 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (July 28, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Is this a show that is televised in the UK?
Yup, but you can find bits and pieces (and whole episodes, I think) on YouTube.
I don't know that the US is ready to publically broadcast secular humor yet. Sad huh?
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Confucius say-
'When pony runs track with blinders on, only view seen is horse's ass'.
In other words, don't let a single book blind you. Not when the bigger picture is easily seen just by looking around.
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:11 pm
(July 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm)iAisha Wrote: see
this is a philosophy but i can clarify little of it
we will focus on the characteristics
example of a door and the woodworker
woodworker makes the door and the door has its own characteristics
then it is not correct to ask who makes the woodworker
because he is the one who makes the door
but we Can say who creates the woodworker
see
door is non lived thing
but the woodworker is alive being
so the questions of from where each of them come is differ
same as asking from where god comes
this question raised because we say god created the man
this question cant be asked
because we dont say there is a common characteristics between god and the human
which is in this situation is that both god and man are created So if you find a pointy rock by a river, is it pointy because a god made it pointy, or because of erosion from the river?
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:14 pm
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(July 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm)iAisha Wrote: but we Can say who creates the woodworker
Yes, we can. The carpenter's mom and dad 'created' him by having unprotected sex, that resulted in a pregnancy.
Quote:door is non lived thing
but the woodworker is alive being
so the questions of from where each of them come is differ
So just because there are sentient organisms, it's proof of creation? No, by your analogy only lifeless objects can be created, living cannot (though this isn't true either, since it's quite easy to make e.g. cells grow and bio-engineering has already made artificial cells).
Quote:this question cant be asked
because we dont say there is a common characteristics between god and the human
That might be in your religion perhaps, but just ask a christian, according to them their god made man (note, man, not humans) in his image.
Quote:which is in this situation is that both god and man are created
Nah, this is still a faulty conclusion with no evidence to back it up.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:23 pm
I have to say
some people have really weird
writing styles
that make absolutely no
sense to me
Welcome anyway
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RE: Atheists answer me
July 28, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Still, preferable to textwalling, wouldn't you agree?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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