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Introducing Illumination

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Introducing Illumination
Edwardo Piet Away
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#41
RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 10:47 am
(August 4, 2013 at 10:46 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: Reincarnation is not a faith-based belief

It is, in a sense, if there is no evidence.
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 10:48 am (This post was last modified: August 4, 2013 at 10:50 am by The Meritocrat.)
(August 4, 2013 at 10:42 am)ITChick Wrote: Hey Meritocrat.

I really did try. But it was really too long. I scanned half of it and couldn't anymore.

Please give us the short version if you want to discuss something

There is no short version, this is highly complex material.
(August 4, 2013 at 10:47 am)HalcyonicTrust Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 10:46 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: Reincarnation is not a faith-based belief

It is, in a sense, if there is no evidence.

No shit!!

I have mathematical evidence.
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#43
RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 10:50 am
Errrm..... yeah.....
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 10:59 am
I must admit this Forum has proven to be a huge disappointment. The main purpose of the OP was to introduce Atheists to a rational religion, unlike that of Abraham.

From there, you would ask me questions and i would supply you with the answers as best as possible. Simple. Yet it seems there's too many egos to feed for that to happen, so i'll just leave this link for the interested and be on my way.

Goodbye.
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#45
RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 11:02 am
(August 4, 2013 at 10:59 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: The main purpose of the OP was to introduce Atheists to a rational religion.

There is no such thing.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 11:04 am (This post was last modified: August 4, 2013 at 11:25 am by The Meritocrat.)
(August 4, 2013 at 11:02 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 10:59 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: The main purpose of the OP was to introduce Atheists to a rational religion.

There is no such thing.

"The Illuminati’s religion is the most highly developed expression of Gnosticism and is called Illumination (alternatively, Illuminism). Dedicated to the pursuit of enlightenment, it has many parallels with the Eastern religions of Hinduism, Buddhism and Taoism. It rejects the Abrahamic religions of faith: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The Illuminati formally began as Pythagoras’s mystery school revolving around the secrets of mathematics. Pythagoras elevated mathematics to a religion and asserted that everything was fundamentally mathematical and could only be explained mathematically. To this day, Illumination is grounded entirely in mathematics. It is therefore the world’s only rational religion, and is entirely compatible with science. Indeed, science is but a subset of mathematics and hence of Illumination. Illuminism asserts that mathematics is not science’s tool; on the contrary, science is mathematics’ tool, a way of exploring what we call “ontological” mathematics, the mathematics of existence. Illuminism is knowledge-based and rejects all “holy” scriptures, prophets, revelations and faith. It is future-oriented, rational, philosophical, scientific, mathematical and dialectical."

Suit yourself.
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 11:17 am
(August 4, 2013 at 10:59 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: Goodbye.

Now this is a work of brevity I can get behind. Kinda disappointed, though...I half expected a two page rant berating us for being anti-intellectual posers.
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 11:31 am
(August 4, 2013 at 10:48 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: There is no short version, this is highly complex material.

What a joke. You spent 95% of the OP on I'll informed criticism of the Abrahamic faiths. Is that your reasoned viewpoint here?!
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 11:32 am
(August 4, 2013 at 10:46 am)The Meritocrat Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 10:27 am)Chas Wrote: This is a faith-based belief. There is certainly no evidence for reincarnation.

Yet you argue that we must abjure faith.

You contradict yourself.

What the fuck!! Didn't i say the purpose of my thread was to get you to ask questions? Where are they? This was just an introduction. Do you really expect me to write it all down here? Most people won't even read the OP, let alone what is to come.

Reincarnation is not a faith-based belief, unless Philosophy is now a religion. Like i said, ask anything at all instead of ignorantly criticizing me.

Philosophy does not provide evidence.

The question is implied in my post: how do you resolve this contradiction?
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Introducing Illumination
August 4, 2013 at 11:35 am (This post was last modified: August 4, 2013 at 11:35 am by The Meritocrat.)
(August 4, 2013 at 11:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 10:48 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: There is no short version, this is highly complex material.

What a joke. You spent 95% of the OP on I'll informed criticism of the Abrahamic faiths. Is that your reasoned viewpoint here?!

Exemplify.
(August 4, 2013 at 11:32 am)Chas Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 10:46 am)The Meritocrat Wrote: What the fuck!! Didn't i say the purpose of my thread was to get you to ask questions? Where are they? This was just an introduction. Do you really expect me to write it all down here? Most people won't even read the OP, let alone what is to come.

Reincarnation is not a faith-based belief, unless Philosophy is now a religion. Like i said, ask anything at all instead of ignorantly criticizing me.

Philosophy does not provide evidence.

The question is implied in my post: how do you resolve this contradiction?

LOL!! WTF???

Is this for real?
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