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No one Believes in Government
#11
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 4, 2013 at 7:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Seriously. Does this forum not have mods?

Stupidity is not an actionable offense.

(Considering you feel the need to insinuate that we don't do our jobs, perhaps that is to your benefit.)
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#12
RE: No one Believes in Government
I'm thinking at this stage in the game, whenever he starts a new thread just respond with something like, "Yes you are right, we were wrong, we're idiots.", and just let him move on to the next topic.
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#13
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 4, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 7:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Seriously. Does this forum not have mods?

Stupidity is not an actionable offense.

(Considering you feel the need to insinuate that we don't do our jobs, perhaps that is to your benefit.)
*ducks*
Peace, brother. Me shouldn'a mentioned mods-- my bad yo.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with you. I have a problem with a guy who makes 6 threads about exactly the same thing over just a couple of months, with no new slant on it and no fresh material.
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#14
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 4, 2013 at 8:51 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 4, 2013 at 7:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Seriously. Does this forum not have mods?

Stupidity is not an actionable offense.

But spamming is.

The interpretation is up to the mods, but a cursory reading of the rules tells me:

Quote:No Spamming
This not only refers to blatant attempts to advertise but to any post that is not an attempt at discussion. Depending on the severity of the spam, a warning or a ban will be administered. We consider spam to be any of the following:

-Multiple postings of the same topic.
-Threads which are posted to advertise products / links unrelated to this forum.
-Responses to existing topics which are completely unrelated to the subject.
-Hit and run postings of a trollish or otherwise inappropriate nature.

Koolay's threads are all on the same topic (government evil, anarchy good), they use the same arguments and given that he keeps ignoring any and all replies and repeating the same thing elsewhere, discussion doesn't seem to be the goal. But, atleast the wording of the thread is different every time - even though the message remains the same. So, at what point does it go from not-spam to spam?
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#15
RE: No one Believes in Government
This guy should move to his own island and make his own state.
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
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#16
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 5, 2013 at 7:09 am)Dragonetti Wrote: This guy should move to his own island and make his own state.

Why? I'm not the one pointing guns at people.
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
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#17
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 5, 2013 at 8:34 am)Koolay Wrote:
(August 5, 2013 at 7:09 am)Dragonetti Wrote: This guy should move to his own island and make his own state.

Why? I'm not the one pointing guns at people.

Oh for fuck's sake, go read Of The Social Contract, Or Principles of Political Right, Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

Or just read this.

Your ineffably ignorant "pointing guns at people" is really childish and tiresome.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#18
RE: No one Believes in Government
You guys need to lay off Koolay. His assessment of the Orwellian living hell I experience as an American is spot on. After all, it's not like we have elected representatives, courts, a Bill of Rights, or free enterprise. Shit, I spend most of my time watching for jack-booted thugs to kick in my door and drag me to some Gulag in Alaska. Since there is no difference (it's all coercion!), I might as well live in fucking North Korea.

Yeah, Koolay is onto something . . .
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#19
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 4, 2013 at 2:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What a load of utter kark.

Quote:Despite what statists say, they don't believe in -any- of it, because it's forced upon them, they don't believe in it by definition.

False dilemma. Simply because something is forced on you (and I do not for a moment think ALL governments rule by force) is not bar to believing in it.

Quote:How do you know the victim of rape really doesn't want to have sex with the rapist? because there's a knife to her throat.

No women EVER wants to have sex with a rapist, knife or no knife. And if you think rape is a sexual crime, you're an eedjit.

Quote:How do you know the man didn't want to give his wallet to the guy in the alley? because there's a gun pointed at him.

False comparison.

Quote:How do you know the child doesn't believe in Islam? because if he doesn't he would be verbally and physically attacked.

Bollocks. I know hundreds of children who don't believe in Islam, and not one of them has ever been attacked over it.

Quote:How do you know people don't want to support the government? Because they will be thrown in a cage if they don't support it.

Unless you're typing from a prison cell, your own presence here gives the above statement the lie: Since YOU clearly don't support government, why aren't you in a cage?

Quote:The only reason why people pretend to support the state is to avoid processing the trauma of being aggressed against and/or immediate physical danger in extreme police states.

There's the kicker. Why the feck didn't you start off by saying 'extreme police states'? You aren't allowed to judge a general case by specific examples when those examples are admittedly extreme. New Zealand is not North Korea.

Quote:Every person that pretends to support government is simply projecting their Stockholm syndrome. People do not believe in the government, at all. Otherwise it would not be backed up by violence.

Yours is a funny sort of derangement.

Boru



You spent WAY more time and effort than this guy is worth.

We're all waiting for the day he gets too tired of waiting for us to 'see the light' and he JUST GOES AWAY [hint, hint, Koolay].

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#20
RE: No one Believes in Government
(August 5, 2013 at 8:34 am)Koolay Wrote: Why? I'm not the one pointing guns at people.

Unless I am mistaken, the point of your first post is that if you are not actively working against the government, you are giving it your tacit approval to point guns at people.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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