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What is Your Approach?
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RE: What is Your Approach?
(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: we tend to latch on to the simplistic answers we find to complex questions in life.
I will ask that you rephrase this statement and say “some people tend…”

Example:

Complex Question- Where did the universe and the cosmos come from?

Simplistic Answer-God did it.


(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: When we want to know something, a quick google search sometimes suffices in place of a thorough investigation - after all, with so much to know there's little time to investigate every matter.
Yup! I wanted to know what artificial crab meat was made of, I consulted Wikipedia, and now I don’t eat artificial crab meat anymore…

(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: We find quick results on wikipedia and turn around to spit out opinionated views on every subject.
Whoa…I don’t know about that. Crab meat? Maybe. Every subject? No, sir.
(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: Rather than fleshing out the truth of a matter, we can decide what we think about something and then pull up the evidence that supports our claim.


Depends on what it is, and what can be found on the alternative.

If it looks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Walks like a duck…?
Is it some kind of a duck?
Thinking

(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: If we really want to find answers to the questions we have, or find direction in our lives, can we really look it up on the Web?
No way Jose!!! You can thank somebody’s God for SCHOOL!! Woohoo! Can you imagine if the answer to your question was yes??? What if other people were convinced that it was true?? Phew! Catastrophe avoided.
(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: How do we know the person who wrote a wikipedia article has a better answer to the existence of God than we do?
If you think that anybody does, you’re off to a bad start. If you are accepting claims from people simply because you think the individual making them ought to know what their talking about, then you’re wasting that thing between your own ears.
(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: If God is just a projection of our psyche, then we can find every answer we need by asking google. In that case God wouldn't be worth seeking in the first place.
You, my friend, are in serious need of a philosophy class! You would love it.

(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: anyone willing to pay attention, consider and weigh all possibilities, will find answers.
I am willing to pay attention. I do not know what all the possibilities are, and neither does anyone else. if I did, I would no doubt have ALL the answers! What I won’t do, is accept that just because something cannot be proven false, then it is possible. Answers that are derived in that manner are not really answers at all…are they? FSM Grin

(August 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Locke Wrote: But before we begin such an endeavor, we must honestly ask ourselves whether we are approaching the task with a determination to justify our opinions, negate another's stance, or discover the truth.
What you’ve just described here is called Critical Thinking. It is the alternative to religion.

(August 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm)whateverist Wrote: It is wired into us and happens pre-consciously through no effort of our own. Now recognizing this I for one am not of the opinion we should butcher any beliefs which science can't vouchsafe. I think there is much more to what we are than our conscious minds and I wouldn't want to relegate that much responsibility or authority to just the part of me I can hold in my conscious attention. I have no good reason to assume that just the part of me under my narrow control is superior to the totality of myself.

Good reply. Hey, have you read Free Will by Sam Harris yet? Fun, quick read! I think you'd dig it.
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#12
RE: What is Your Approach?
It was the writings of Robert Green Ingersoll that helped me to denounce theism as nothing more than a silly fairy tale.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#13
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You can read all about Ingersoll on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_G._Ingersoll

Is it just me or is the OP just another example of the genetic fallacy?

From wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy

I use wiki quite often and find it to be reasonably accurate.

Meanwhile, any evidence for god dad, boy and ghost?
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#14
RE: What is Your Approach?
(August 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm)whateverist Wrote: Since we have and are our brains, we are certainly entitled to honor the gods we produce at least as much as the 'self' which our brain also produces. You might say gods and selves are on a similar footing, except one is "I" and the other is, well, other. But both arise and exist in a similar way - whatever that may be.

I like this part particularly. When thinking about the author of my thoughts, the terms "Me" and "I" don't seem to fit properly...he he he.
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(August 7, 2013 at 5:34 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: You can read all about Ingersoll on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_G._Ingersoll

I prefer this site, with all of his works:

http://www.infidels.org/library/historic...ingersoll/
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#17
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Quote:Wikipedia is never my go-to source for anything that I think is (or might be) important or of great interest to me.

Wiki's okay - as long as you check their footnotes to see who they are quoting.
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#18
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I think wikipedia is garbage. I prefer my seeing stones.
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#19
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I can never get those seer stones to work very well with my LCD monitor. Worked much better on an old CRT for some reason.
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#20
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(August 7, 2013 at 6:05 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: I can never get those seer stones to work very well with my LCD monitor. Worked much better on an old CRT for some reason.

Common misconcecption. Actually, you just have to put them in the right hat. I got mine from a buddy in Utah.
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