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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 29, 2013 at 6:33 pm
(August 29, 2013 at 3:26 pm)smax Wrote: Exactly. If you write history yourself, you can make anything happen within that history. The Bible is filled with fictional tales and events. Ofcourse the prophesies were fulfilled within that framework! LOL.
I'm very familiar with scripture, and can't think of a single thing within it that's impressive or compelling. It reads like non-sense and ultimately proves to be non-sense.
I'm only sad that I once felt compelled to say otherwise.
Bullshit! (again)
If you were "very familiar" with scripture, wouldn't you have been able to produce Biblical support for your bare assertion?!?!?
(August 24, 2013 at 7:20 pm)catfish Wrote: (August 24, 2013 at 7:05 pm)smax Wrote: Although I have chosen to create this thread in the Christian section, the question I am posing is primarily directed toward non-Christians. Christians have an obligation to believe that Jesus was either god himself or god's son.
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Thoughts?
Proof of claim?
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 29, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Quote:Nicene Creed
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.
Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.
And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Which, apparently did not contain enough bullshit because some 50 years later they had to reissue it as the
Quote:First Council of Constantinople (A.D. 381)
Creed
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost and the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sits at the Right Hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead. Whose kingdom shall have no end. (I)
And [we believe] in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver-of-Life, who proceeds from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And [we believe] in one, holy, (II) Catholic and Apostolic Church. We acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins, [and] we look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Apparently they needed an extra shovel for that one.
Always amusing when jesus freaks claim xtianity is unchanging.
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RE: Theories about Jesus?
August 29, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Creeds are bullshit. The band "Creed" is an even bigger pile of bullshit.
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