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rational naturalism is impossible!
Re: RE: rational naturalism is impossible!
(October 29, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:
(October 29, 2013 at 7:03 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote: "If naturalism is true, then nothing exists beyond our physical selves."
This seems almost certainly true, so I am with you so far.

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" 5. C3 we have no way to know if our reasoning leads us to truth in any proposition including the proposition of naturalism itself. any and all propositions based on our cognitive faculties (which are all of them) then are just as likely to be correct as they are to be incorrect- from P2&C2."

We call that "Solipsism" and you are about 2,000 years late to the party. You didn't need any of the other/prior points to make that by the way.

If the theist argument is we cannot rely on evolved minds for truth, then it follows evolved minds cannot think truthfully about theology, God or religion.

Which might explain why there are so many contradictory religions, gods, sects and cults.

That's fair (they likely won't agree)
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RE: rational naturalism is impossible!
(October 29, 2013 at 8:35 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote:
(October 29, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: If the theist argument is we cannot rely on evolved minds for truth, then it follows evolved minds cannot think truthfully about theology, God or religion.

Which might explain why there are so many contradictory religions, gods, sects and cults.

That's fair (they likely won't agree)

They usually claim, at this point, that their god gives them a "Get Out of Solipsism Free" card. Don't ask me how this is supposed to work. It makes sense to them, for some reason.
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And I am just sitting here...waiting for a reply....
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