the so fallible Bible

[Minimalist]

Godschild Wrote: It is the spiritual needs God's concerned about

Yeah - those "spiritual needs" ( a xtian term meaning bullshit) cost the preachers nothing. Enough to fool dolts like you, G-C.

[FallentoReason]

Not billions of years. Simply that there is no time line between Genesis 2 and 3. Which again could have been a day or a trillion years.

Your evolution + literal Garden theory implies that God *planned* to throw humanity out of the Garden. For A&E to successfully mate with "monkey man", they would of had to enter the real world at a *specific* point in time when "monkey man" was genetically compatible. Assuming that God isn't 100% incapable of creating something that fails, he must have timed the entire ordeal so that humanity wouldn't die out with A&E (via inbreeding) but instead gave them the opportunity to populate earth by mating with monkey men.

It really doesn't matter how you slice this Christianity deal. Moral of the story: God is evil.

[Drich]

Not billions of years. Simply that there is no time line between Genesis 2 and 3. Which again could have been a day or a trillion years.

Your evolution + literal Garden theory implies that God *planned* to throw humanity out of the Garden. For A&E to successfully mate with "monkey man", they would of had to enter the real world at a *specific* point in time when "monkey man" was genetically compatible. Assuming that God isn't 100% incapable of creating something that fails, he must have timed the entire ordeal so that humanity wouldn't die out with A&E (via inbreeding) but instead gave them the opportunity to populate earth by mating with monkey men.

It really doesn't matter how you slice this Christianity deal. Moral of the story: God is evil.

According to who's standard?

[FallentoReason]

Your evolution + literal Garden theory implies that God *planned* to throw humanity out of the Garden. For A&E to successfully mate with "monkey man", they would of had to enter the real world at a *specific* point in time when "monkey man" was genetically compatible. Assuming that God isn't 100% incapable of creating something that fails, he must have timed the entire ordeal so that humanity wouldn't die out with A&E (via inbreeding) but instead gave them the opportunity to populate earth by mating with monkey men.

It really doesn't matter how you slice this Christianity deal. Moral of the story: God is evil.

According to who's standard?

Address the issue Drich. You avoid more issues than agents avoided bullets in the Matrix.

[Lion IRC]

Actually - the ten commandments are NOT original to the bible..

THIS TEN?
1. I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord God in vain
3. Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day
4. Honor your father and your mother
5. You shall not kill
6. You shall not commit adultery
7. You shall not steal
8. You shall not bear false witness
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods

Show me this list earlier and elsewhere than the Hebrew bible.

...nor is the so called GOLDEN RULE _ which long predates the bible.

The golden rule as it appears throughout the Old Testament does predate the WRITTEN bible and was practiced by God's people long before the words ever appeared in print form.
You are confusing the age of the printed bible with the periods of time written ABOUT in the bible which happened long before.

[FallentoReason]

The golden rule as it appears throughout the Old Testament does predate the WRITTEN bible and was practiced by God's people long before the words ever appeared in print form.
You are confusing the age of the printed bible with the periods of time written ABOUT in the bible which happened long before.

Still nothing special about it.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc2.htm

[Minimalist]

You two shitheads are embarrassing yourselves.

The OT was based on an "eye for an eye" whereas your xtian shit is supposedly based on "turning the other cheek" not that you fuckers ever follow that one.

This bunch of xtian shits at least knows what they are talking about.

http://www.2pi.info/bible/god/gods-chang...Cheek.html

4. Eye for an Eye or Turn the Other Cheek

Perhaps the most commonly felt difference between the Old and New Testaments relates to the balance between justice and mercy. Under the Old Testament law, there was a strong emphasis on justice and the punishments to be levelled at those who committed crimes. Oft quoted is the phrase “an eye for an eye”, which comes from the Law of Moses which had punishments equivalent to the crime,

Leviticus 24:19: "If a man injures his neighbor, just as he has done, so it shall be done to him: 20. fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; just as he has injured a man, so it shall be inflicted on him. WEB

In the New Testament, Jesus refers to this aspect of the law, and directs his followers in a different direction.

Matt 5:38: "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39. But I tell you, don't resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Maybe you guys should sign up there for lessons. YOu need them.

[Lion IRC]

Still nothing special about it.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc2.htm

Nothing special about treating others as you would have them treat you?

I think that is a VERY SPECIAL moral admonishment.

If we didnt value our fellow humans we would have no need for words like "ethics", "humanism", "altruism", ''philanthropy''....

[FallentoReason]

Still nothing special about it.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc2.htm

Nothing special about treating others as you would have them treat you?

I think that is a VERY SPECIAL moral admonishment.

If we didnt value our fellow humans we would have no need for words like "ethics", "humanism", "altruism", ''philanthropy''....

Ok... clearly you didn't follow the link. The Golden Rule is found in plenty of other cultures that predate the Hebrews.

[Minimalist]

Nothing special about treating others as you would have them treat you?

Your fucking jesus didn't think of it.