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Kevin Mirasi
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RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 8, 2013 at 1:24 pm)Kemotx Wrote: Wow, wow. We need to respect everyone, no matter what their beliefs are.

Part of respecting someone is not treating them like a special little snowflake, and understanding that adults can be called on the idiotic shit they do and believe without crumbling into dust.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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#22
RE: Kevin Mirasi
Wow, I really hate this "respect" shit. I almost thought you were being sarcastic but turns out you're not.
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#23
RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 8, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Kemotx Wrote: Sometimes I don't know what to believe; Atheists have a lot of proofs for nonexistence of God, but when a guy starts to write about deadly accurate predictions (Especially the smaller ones, like politician assasinated, which are fulfilled only few days later etc.) I'm worried.

Poe.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#24
RE: Kevin Mirasi
I've got a much better track record of fulfilled prophecies than this amateur.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#25
RE: Kevin Mirasi
There are some deadly accurate predictions of the coming of the Messiah in the Old Testament as well. Reasonably accurate anyway it wasn't quite 100% but it could have been the Jews who were getting a few details wrong. Jesus predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple which happened in 70 AD so that's a good bit of prediction there if you're into that sort of thing.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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#26
RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 8, 2013 at 12:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Earthquakes? In the ring of fire?

Whodathunkit?

This. I can predict shit all day long too, and there is a good chance it'll happen. For instance:

Within the next 100 years, a volcano in the Hawaiian islands will erupt. Worship me.
No creator in the heavens above (I am the lightning)
Rest your weary mind
No demons in the furnace below (I am the frenzy)
I have realized I AM GOD
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RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 9, 2013 at 5:13 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: There are some deadly accurate predictions of the coming of the Messiah in the Old Testament as well. Reasonably accurate anyway it wasn't quite 100% but it could have been the Jews who were getting a few details wrong. Jesus predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple which happened in 70 AD so that's a good bit of prediction there if you're into that sort of thing.

Any idgit paying attention back then could have guessed the same. Considering the NT was written after the temple's razing, it wasn't even a guess...it was reporting.
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RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 9, 2013 at 5:21 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Any idgit paying attention back then could have guessed the same. Considering the NT was written after the temple's razing, it wasn't even a guess...it was reporting.

The only gospel of the four that was written after the destruction of the Temple was John.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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#29
RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 9, 2013 at 6:19 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(October 9, 2013 at 5:21 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Any idgit paying attention back then could have guessed the same. Considering the NT was written after the temple's razing, it wasn't even a guess...it was reporting.

The only gospel of the four that was written after the destruction of the Temple was John.

Because you were around then to claim eyewitness? Maybe you could provide evidence of the manuscripts actually existing pre 2nd Temple destruction, please?
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#30
RE: Kevin Mirasi
(October 9, 2013 at 6:38 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Because you were around then to claim eyewitness? Maybe you could provide evidence of the manuscripts actually existing pre 2nd Temple destruction, please?

But we can't be certain of any historical account wasn't tampered with or misrepresented from the reality of what actually happened. I don't think any of Jesus's followers would have deliberately told lies about him and something like this would have had to have been if it were later inserted after the event. But I can't say it's not possible if you prefer to believe that. A faith is more than just a belief in the metaphysical/supernatural stuff it's also a trust that the people involved weren't simply spouting a bunch of bullshit and lies for some reason or other. If you want to say it's gullibility I don't think any of these people were con-men or out for personal or material gain I think I'm a good judge of character.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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