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October 14, 2013 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 3:34 pm by Kayenneh.)
(October 14, 2013 at 3:32 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Also, if I get a promotion it's because I gave myself one. ..autofellatio? 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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October 14, 2013 at 3:41 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 3:44 pm by Captain Colostomy.)
 (October 14, 2013 at 12:56 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: . I can only tell you what I know to discuss what I don't, and I know that if you pray, you'll be heard. You care more about our lack of beliefs than we do about yours, I can promise you. But really, it's none of your business what we [dont] believe. You have no right to presume, which I've seen you've done at least once already.  (October 14, 2013 at 3:25 pm)Zazzy Wrote: I find the whole concept of prayer to be really fucking offensive. If you get a promotion, it's because god helped, not because you worked hard. If you didn't get it, it's because you didn't pray hard enough. Or if you didn't get it, it's because god has another plan for you. Perhaps it's time you ditch that job! The thing about rationalizing the effects of prayer is that they can be uniformly positive if you approach it that way. That is to say, any outcome is the "right" outcome. Did you get what you prayed for? God answered your prayer. Did you get something different, but which can be rationalized as positive? God answered your prayer, he just did so in a manner you did not expect. Did nothing happen? God will answer your prayer in due time, you simply need to be patient. Did something bad happen, that you cannot easily rationalize as positive? God is allowing you to be tested, and if you hang in there you will be rewarded for your faith. Heck, to some people the trials are a reward in and of themselves, proof that the devil is so upset at your friendship with god that he's trying everything he can to mess with you. And so on. In my experience, when you are hearing people explain that god cannot be detected but there is evidence of his existence, this is one of the things that they are referring to. This is "personal witness" of the hand of god in action, because he has answered prayers. Totally not a self-delusion or anything like that.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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