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Poll: Regarding the Book of Revelations found in the Bible ....
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I believe that Revelations must be translated literally and that such stories of a seven-headed beast rising from the sea and the four horseman are going to be very real and exactly that.
5.71%
2 5.71%
I believe that Revelations is partially literal and partially alligorical.
5.71%
2 5.71%
I believe either the large majority or the whole of Revelations is allegorical. I don't believe that beasts from hell will be running around devouring people up.
11.43%
4 11.43%
If you're left behind after the rapture, you are going to witness terrifying monsters for real!
2.86%
1 2.86%
Revelations is the ramblings of a primitive lunatic. Stop asking silly questions Cinjin!
74.29%
26 74.29%
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Revelations
#51
RE: Revelations
Ah, fuck it. Let's just piss off the jesus freaks!

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/revelation.htm

Quote:Revealing Truth Behind 'Revelation'

Although the apocalypse does not quote directly, within its four hundred or so verses are about five hundred and fifty references to the Old Testament (B. F. Westcott and F. J. A. Hort, Greek New Testament, 184 ff.) Its core – several apocalyptic endings badly stitched together – was later given a Christian preface: a series of seven angry letters, chastising seven errant churches in western Asia Minor. Having berated the churches, Revelation then unleashes a relentless apocalyptic nightmare, badly written, repetitive and self-contradictory. In chapter after chapter, it details bizarre horrors, the supposed fate that imminently will befall the enemies of the Lord. It is the latter which gives the book its enduring popularity – a vision of the gore-fest at the End of Time.

Revelation is the outpouring of a Jew seriously embittered by Roman imperialism. This fevered Jewish mind invokes retribution for his enemies from that old, vicious god of Hebrew scripture, who rips into humanity with poetic abandon. Thus, in a whole series of ‘Ends’, God releases seven ‘vials of his wrath’ (blood, plague, sores, fire, drought, etc.); sets loose four horsemen (at the head of an army of 200 million!) ‘for to slay the third part of men’ (9.15). He has his ‘demonic locusts’ torment unbelievers for five months; etc., etc. Kings, captains, false prophets and ‘the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great’ are eaten by fowls that fly and are cast alive into a lake of ‘fire and brimstone.’
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#52
RE: Revelations
This used to be one of my favorite books of the bible. I think I just like apocalyptic stories in general. I like how over the years it evolved to mean a man coming into political power to enslave millions. How boring.
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#53
RE: Revelations
Wait, so 5/9 theists believe in multi headed beasties and hellfires?

<<SAD>>
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#54
RE: Revelations
(November 6, 2013 at 7:32 am)ToriJ Wrote: This used to be one of my favorite books of the bible. I think I just like apocalyptic stories in general. I like how over the years it evolved to mean a man coming into political power to enslave millions. How boring.

Don't you know that 'drama' sells? If it ain't exciting it doesn't sell.
"This time the bullet cold rocked ya a yellow ribbon instead of a swastika?" -RATM
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#55
RE: Revelations
(October 30, 2013 at 1:53 pm)Darwinian Wrote:
(October 29, 2013 at 6:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So you won't burn in the lake of fire. Duh.

That would be the God of love and forgiveness then? Dodgy
Why would you want to spend eternity with the God you hate?
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#56
RE: Revelations
We're atheists; aren't we supposed to enjoy misery?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#57
RE: Revelations
(November 8, 2013 at 2:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Why would you want to spend eternity with the God you hate?

So we can constantly annoy him by telling him he doesn't exist.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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#58
RE: Revelations
(November 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Stimbo Wrote: We're atheists; aren't we supposed to enjoy misery?

And munching on babies. Don't forget that.
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#59
RE: Revelations
Chewing on one as we speak, Min. Raw of course.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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