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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:32 pm
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(October 29, 2013 at 3:56 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 2:57 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: by denying something a person has already acknowledged it, therefore it cannot be unreal because that would be contradictory.
Unicorns.
Dragons.
Griffons.
Werewolves.
Vampires.
You are quite mistaken.
I'm not mistaken, you've clearly underestimated the statement. Congratulations, you've thought of mythological creatures, which CAN be proven to be unreal based on their nature. On the other hand, God can NOT be proven to be unreal, no one has done so. You've acknowledged God, good job. You cannot prove that He does not exist. I on the other hand can disprove your claims because they are MYTHOLOGICAL creatures, God is not.
(October 29, 2013 at 4:03 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Ill he respond? Maybe you guy should take it easy on him, he's never met many atheists before and has only heard of us through third hand information
Someone who claims that no one can say anything doesn't exist because by saying that thing we're acknowledging it exists, is either:
1. extremely dishonest, or
2. has never read anything, spoken to anyone, used his head, etc etc, I can go on.
Anselm, one of the GREATEST Philosophical thinkers stated my first claim. Hence,by thinking of God, you've already acknowledged Him, you can choose to deny Him in your life, but you cannot deny the fact that God does no exist, no one can. How does this make someone dishonest? And I apologize that there are smarter people than you.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I'm still chuckling over an earlier statement. Something about a strong christard thinker can prove the history of the bible. Is 'thinkers' who we are turning to now to confirm shit that normally would be confirmed/refuted by scientists?
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:41 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 6:03 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Calling someone names - now THAT is ignorant.
I wonder how many times I could accuse someone of incest before I got done for flaming.
Way to go showing a new member of the forum how rational people have a civil conversation.
Thank you very much  I wanted the noobie to get a taste of what s/he was in for if they intend to post the crap this one does.
I got a taste of the ignorance that comes out of your mouth, I'm glad to say that I have outsmarted a wannabe atheist. You clearly cannot hold a conversation, and if profanity boosts your ego, good for you. At least I can stand next to a true philosopher while we laugh at the ignorance coming from you. Are you sure you don't need toilet paper to wipe the shit coming out of your mouth?
(October 29, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: I'm currently working on an Apologetics project in which I need to talk to a few people who consider to be atheists and why they believe what they do.
Question 1: Why do you not believe in a God
Question 2: Why do you choose to deny the existence of a God
I'll start off with that, thank you, I look forward to an interesting conversation
And for the record, calling someone ignorant is not an insult if it happens to be the truth; for example, I'm ignorant when it comes to kissing church leaders asses to stay in god's grace, but I'm not ignorant toward sarcasm - see how that works?
You're ignorant in general, congratulations, you cannot hold a true conversation because you know you'll be stumped by a Christian thinker who clearly has more knowledge than you'll ever have.
And as far as the motherfucker bit, well that's just my vernacular for most ignorant theists, so take what you will from that. Either that, or his wife has children, thus rendering him, by default a motherfucker.
I refrain from profanity because the academics I have received are clearly a lot better than the waste you got from your education. It's sad to think that you probably graduated from high school, I sure hope not, that would be an embarrassment to education throughout the world.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:44 pm
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(October 29, 2013 at 11:41 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 6:03 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Thank you very much I wanted the noobie to get a taste of what s/he was in for if they intend to post the crap this one does.
I got a taste of the ignorance that comes out of your mouth, I'm glad to say that I have outsmarted a wannabe atheist. You clearly cannot hold a conversation, and if profanity boosts your ego, good for you. At least I can stand next to a true philosopher while we laugh at the ignorance coming from you. Are you sure you don't need toilet paper to wipe the shit coming out of your mouth?
And for the record, calling someone ignorant is not an insult if it happens to be the truth; for example, I'm ignorant when it comes to kissing church leaders asses to stay in god's grace, but I'm not ignorant toward sarcasm - see how that works?
You're ignorant in general, congratulations, you cannot hold a true conversation because you know you'll be stumped by a Christian thinker who clearly has more knowledge than you'll ever have.
And as far as the motherfucker bit, well that's just my vernacular for most ignorant theists, so take what you will from that. Either that, or his wife has children, thus rendering him, by default a motherfucker.
I refrain from profanity because the academics I have received are clearly a lot better than the waste you got from your education. It's sad to think that you probably graduated from high school, I sure hope not, that would be an embarrassment to education throughout the world. Not really as you have come here basically saying the same thing again and agian and havent offered anything besides a logical fallacy to back up yoour claim. Demonstrate the historicity of your bible, demonstrate your god is not mythology.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:48 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 11:28 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Liberty University has da interwebz?
pretty much
(October 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: Azusa Pacific ... better than Liberty, and has a lot of ACTUAL thinkers who are not ignorant as yourself.
It is not a bad argument, it's one of the most philosophical point made by one of the GREATEST Philosophical thinkers (Anselm) which I'm not surprised you know nothing about because you cannot contradict anything that I have stated. When you have the mind of an above high school level thinker I'll be more than happy to talk to you, until then, congratulations on the ignorance
First off thats called a appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. Second I have contradicted allot you have said.
You have not contradicted anything I have said, congratulations, the atheist is wrong again. Then again, that's not a surprise, I respect a TRUE atheist thinker, clearly you are an ignorant thinker who can't leave a high school mindset behind.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:52 pm
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An academic background(so claimed...), and a highlight is 'not cursing'? What school offers a major in Etiquette now? Did you minor in courtseying?
Jesus.
True atheist. Hoo boy.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:54 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: I'm still chuckling over an earlier statement. Something about a strong christard thinker can prove the history of the bible. Is 'thinkers' who we are turning to now to confirm shit that normally would be confirmed/refuted by scientists?
If I'm not mistaken some of the greatest scientists were Christian thinkers (such as Isaac Newton) ... and you can't use science to disprove religion, all science is are theories, then again we don't comprehend much of the science that is being studied today, by taking college level physics I'm knowledgeable of this, you have come as far as what? Believing in the big Bang THEORY?
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:55 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2013 at 12:01 am by Lemonvariable72.)
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Why do these fuckheads keep washing up here and always covered with the same silly jesus shit?
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 30, 2013 at 12:00 am
(October 29, 2013 at 11:32 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: I'm not mistaken, you've clearly underestimated the statement. Congratulations, you've thought of mythological creatures, which CAN be proven to be unreal based on their nature. On the other hand, God can NOT be proven to be unreal, no one has done so. You've acknowledged God, good job. You cannot prove that He does not exist. I on the other hand can disprove your claims because they are MYTHOLOGICAL creatures, God is not. Assertions. Back up your claims. For starters, prove that mythological creatures cannot exist.
Quote:Anselm, one of the GREATEST Philosophical thinkers stated my first claim. Hence,by thinking of God, you've already acknowledged Him, you can choose to deny Him in your life, but you cannot deny the fact that God does no exist, no one can. How does this make someone dishonest? And I apologize that there are smarter people than you.
Even if Anselm truly was a great thinker, parroting his claims does not confer the same status onto yourself. No more than holding a mirror up to the mona lisa would make you a great artist.
(October 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: It is not a bad argument, it's one of the most philosophical point made by one of the GREATEST Philosophical thinkers (Anselm) which I'm not surprised you know nothing about because you cannot contradict anything that I have stated. I already have contradicted your claim. So too has just about everyone else on this thread.
Anselm clearly is not the intellectual powerhouse you take him for. Your argument violates one of the most basic logical axioms - the law of non-contradiction. If Anselm was unaware of this, he can't have been a very good philosopher. If he was aware of this, he was a very stupid philosopher.
I'm sorry, but using that argument in this forum is akin to turning up to the battle of Kursk with a tricycle and a waterpistol.
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