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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 12:12 pm)Rationalman Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 11:57 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Existential equality is a religious concept co-opted by secularism. Without it you get eugenics and the 'Bell Curve' style of racism. You cannot avoid the dark side of evolutionary theory.
What dark side would this be? All evolution theory does is explain the diversity of life
Fair enough. Science is neutral. Without the guidance of 'equal in the eyes of the Lord' you get the American eugenics movement of the 1930's and Nazi ' Master race' programs.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:23 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2013 at 1:31 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(November 8, 2013 at 1:17 am)ChadWooters Wrote: What the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here. Cause I'm a creep.
You belong here because you won't call out your fellow Christians, no matter what they say. As far as i can see, that's the only hard and fast rule Christianists on this forum share.
Edit: Except possibly for Aractus.
(November 8, 2013 at 3:28 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Nope. Wrong again. I can make a case against same-sex 'marriage' which is entirely secular social science and which is based on Darwinian/Evolutionary natural selection.
In other words, which is based on the naturalistic fallacy.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:28 pm
(November 7, 2013 at 7:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: Oh! testy little one testy, I might know more about you than you think.
GC
No you don't.
You don't know anything outside your own warped perspective on reality.
I present your posts in their entirety on this forum as evidence.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Lol now I read the thread. Funny stuff. Creepy and funny.
Pointing around: "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out!"
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 11:57 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Existential equality is a religious concept co-opted by secularism. Without it you get eugenics and the 'Bell Curve' style of racism. You cannot avoid the dark side of evolutionary theory.
It's a humanist concept co-opted by religion.
Theories don't have 'dark sides'. They're not people. People have dark sides. And all you need to get to eugenics is a rudimentary grasp of animial husbandry, no theory of evolution required. It's the theory of evolution that illustrates some of the pitfalls of eugenics, such as reducing the diversity of your gene pool.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:34 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Fair enough. Science is neutral. Without the guidance of 'equal in the eyes of the Lord' you get the American eugenics movement of the 1930's and Nazi ' Master race' programs.
Bad people using evolution to justify doing bad things, that happens with everything and is unavoidable. It does not make them right. In fact you could argue that they did not actually understand evolution theory properly.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 7:25 am)Lion IRC Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 6:58 am)Ryantology Wrote: Correction: we've established that two characters were depicted as directly communicating in a work of fiction. Don't get ahead of yourself.
By the way, when are you going to dig up those Bible verses proving that LL&PoH are inalienable rights bestowed by your specific God? You didn't think I was going to let you forget, did you?
The 2013 Member Awards are coming up soon.
Can I get a nomination if I do your research grunt work for you?
I DID offer you a formal debate on the topic if you really wanted to put your money where your mouth is.
GTG. BBL.
I wanna check out the dramaz at TR.
For cryin' out loud.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:47 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Fair enough. Science is neutral. Without the guidance of 'equal in the eyes of the Lord' you get the American eugenics movement of the 1930's and Nazi ' Master race' programs. Yeah, I'm not convinced that science was the main driving force behind those....
(November 8, 2013 at 1:17 am)ChadWooters Wrote: What the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here. Cause I'm a creep. You're a wierdo 
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 12:57 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm by Tonus.)
(November 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Fair enough. Science is neutral. Without the guidance of 'equal in the eyes of the Lord' you get the American eugenics movement of the 1930's and Nazi ' Master race' programs.
The god of the Bible led his people in their conquest of numerous tribes and nations and occasionally allowed them to take wives and slaves from among the survivors. The 'might makes right' approach of Yahweh seems to be in line with the 'evolutionary' approach. I am of the impression that the men who wrote those stories were promoting that very idea, with god as the ultimate expression of the survival of the fittest. Who better to rule the world and subjugate its people than the tribe who had a god of armies at its back?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Yawn. Another atheist sets himself in judgement of God.
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