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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 7:21 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 7:03 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Of course, scientists are moral agents and they have to take responsibility for their thalidomide, asbestos, Chernobyl meltdowns, cane toad environmental stuff ups, weapons of mass destruction...
And I think I read somewhere that most scientists are atheists.
Two possibilities, Lion: either you amend that so that the scientists personally responsible for those things need to take responsibility for them, or, if you're desperate to tar all atheists like this, then you'll also need to take responsibility for the terrible things perpetrated by christians- the child rapes, the genocides, the crusades, the inquisition, etc etc. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
Unless you're just engaging in a little dishonest bullshit?
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 7:32 pm
(November 7, 2013 at 11:33 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: (November 7, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Are you so sure we've never meet, wee one?
GC If you've met me then come out and say it along with my name in PM, or feel free to keep playing the fool. Though none find you funny except at your expense.
Creepy bastard.
You should be careful who you complain to.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 7:43 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2013 at 7:45 pm by Lion IRC.)
(November 8, 2013 at 7:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 7:03 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Of course, scientists are moral agents and they have to take responsibility for their thalidomide, asbestos, Chernobyl meltdowns, cane toad environmental stuff ups, weapons of mass destruction...
And I think I read somewhere that most scientists are atheists.
Two possibilities, Lion: either you amend that so that the scientists personally responsible for those things need to take responsibility for them, or, if you're desperate to tar all atheists like this, then you'll also need to take responsibility for the terrible things perpetrated by christians- the child rapes, the genocides, the crusades, the inquisition, etc etc. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
Unless you're just engaging in a little dishonest bullshit?
Amend my post? Why? Because it bothered your sensitivities?
Nope. I stand by what say. (Iron. Like a lion. In Zion)
Go try and intimidate someone weak and spineless.
...like those gutless lying atheist scumbags pretending to be Christian clergy!!!
I hear there are tons of pedophiles hiding in the clergy too.
WAIT A MOMENT!!!
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 7:46 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 7:43 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Amend my post? Why? Because it bothered your sensitivities?
No, because the logic of it is either wrong, or indicative of your willingness to engage in dishonest special pleading whenever it'll suit your purposes.
Quote:Nope. I stand by what say. (Iron. Like a lion. In Zion)
Then you're a liar and a bullshit artist, plain and simple.
Quote:Go try and intimidate someone weak and spineless.
Why would I want to intimidate you?
Quote:Like those gutless lying atheist scumbags pretending to be Christian clergy.
Oh gee, we've never heard a no true scotsman before.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Quote: If indeed God, and His kingdom is found "within" as Jesus said.... what can anyone tell you that isn't a lie, or opinion?
A sentence which begins with "if" is not likely to rank high on the evidence hierarchy. Sounds more like wishful thinking...which is all that "faith" is.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 7:58 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 7:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 7:43 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: ...Like those gutless lying atheist scumbags pretending to be Christian clergy.
Oh gee, we've never heard a no true scotsman before.
Um. No. That's not an NTS fallacy.
I'm saying that true 'Scotsmen' probably DO hide in the clergy and practice sexual hedonism free from the shackles of a belief in God.
An atheist pretending to be a priest isn't breaking any dogmatic rules or beliefs.
Atheists can do anything they want.
Atheism is merely the lack of belief in God/gods.
So you cannot say ...oh but Lion they aren't 'really' atheists.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 8:03 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 7:58 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: So you cannot say ...oh but Lion they aren't 'really' atheists.
No, but I can ask you for evidence of your ridiculous, shit stirring conspiracy theory, which you don't have because you're just lying.
And then, I can dismiss your bullshit out of hand.
I'm doing both, right now.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Atheists hiding in the clergy isn't a conspiracy theory.
It is well documented.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 8:08 pm
All Christians brush their teeth with feces.
Bare assertions are fun, aren't they, Lion?
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 8, 2013 at 8:10 pm
(November 8, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Atheists hiding in the clergy isn't a conspiracy theory.
It is well documented. They fear the judgement of good Christians.
Think of it as being similar to joining a cult that you waken on day to realize is a cult. You'd have some difficulty getting your butt outta there without a ruckus.
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