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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 9:14 am
(November 11, 2013 at 4:58 am)missluckie26 Wrote: lol I wonder just what the real Christians would say to the comfortable smug misrepresentation of their religion that haunts this forum?
The more sanctimonious ones would disapprove, the rest would probably see it as a justifiable response to the hostile comments directed at them.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 9:47 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2013 at 9:48 am by Chas.)
(November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: Christ tells us to obey the law of the land, because no one can condemn us for do such. He added a however, if the law of the land goes against my laws you are to obey mine, doing so in peace and love.
GC
At which point you become a criminal.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 1:13 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 9:47 am)Chas Wrote: (November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: Christ tells us to obey the law of the land, because no one can condemn us for do such. He added a however, if the law of the land goes against my laws you are to obey mine, doing so in peace and love.
GC
At which point you become a criminal. A criminal in "peace and love"
And that makes it ok *wink wink*
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 2:07 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 9, 2013 at 6:43 am)missluckie26 Wrote: When where? I don't believe you in the slightest.
I literally do not care what you think about me, your opinions hold absolutely no weight with me, period. Sorry, but you are the one who has taken yourself to such a low level.
GC
@GC,
Yours, is a non response. Do you care about the souls of atheists? Can you help us understand by the power of the holy spirit, or is this just man-on-man with no god involved? Is there any power in the blood of Jesus? Can you take down our strongholds with mighty weapons we know nothing of? Will you?
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 11, 2013 at 2:07 am)Godschild Wrote: I literally do not care what you think about me, your opinions hold absolutely no weight with me, period. Sorry, but you are the one who has taken yourself to such a low level.
GC
@GC,
Yours, is a non response. Do you care about the souls of atheists? Can you help us understand by the power of the holy spirit, or is this just man-on-man with no god involved? Is there any power in the blood of Jesus? Can you take down our strongholds with mighty weapons we know nothing of? Will you?
I pray for God to open your hearts, it is He who does such work, if you find yourself unmoved by God he has either given up on you because He knows your final outcome or, it's not the right time for Him to convict your heart.
GC
PS What I said id I did not care what someone thought about me, I said nothing about what I think about others, you need to revamp your thinking and bring it around to reasoning the simple.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 5:40 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 2:23 am)Esquilax Wrote: Wow, so your method for covering up a lie is the same as your method for responding to an objection you have no answer for? I didn't realize your repertoire was so limited.
Would you try to run Crysis on a 386?
GC's gotta work with the hardware he has, and just knowing what the word "repertoire" means is asking a lot.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 5:51 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: @GC,
*Do you care about the souls of atheists?
*Can you help us understand by the power of the holy spirit, or is this just man-on-man with no god involved?
*Is there any power in the blood of Jesus?
*Can you take down our strongholds with mighty weapons we know nothing of?
*Will you?
PS What I said id I did not care what someone thought about me, I said nothing about what I think about others, you need to revamp your thinking and bring it around to reasoning the simple.
GC ( bold added by me)
My questions are sincere and they stand alone. They are not built upon any presupposition, nor any interpretation of your intent. Your responses are consistent with what I've come to expect from you. They were qualifying questions
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 6:22 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2013 at 6:25 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 11, 2013 at 5:51 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: PS What I said id I did not care what someone thought about me, I said nothing about what I think about others, you need to revamp your thinking and bring it around to reasoning the simple.
GC (bold added by me)
My questions are sincere and they stand alone. They are not built upon any presupposition, nor any interpretation of your intent. Your responses are consistent with what I've come to expect from you. They were qualifying questions ![Wink Wink](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/wink.gif)
They are foolishness and qualify nothing, you assume I do not care, yet I just demonstrated I did and have by hanging around here for over three years.
GC
(November 11, 2013 at 9:47 am)Chas Wrote: (November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: Christ tells us to obey the law of the land, because no one can condemn us for do such. He added a however, if the law of the land goes against my laws you are to obey mine, doing so in peace and love.
GC
At which point you become a criminal.
Being a criminal in a man made society or seen as innocent in the eyes of the Eternal God, that's a no brainer.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 6:40 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 6:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 11, 2013 at 5:51 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (bold added by me)
My questions are sincere and they stand alone. They are not built upon any presupposition, nor any interpretation of your intent. Your responses are consistent with what I've come to expect from you. They were qualifying questions ![Wink Wink](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/wink.gif)
They are foolishness and qualify nothing, you assume I do not care... ( bold added by me)
Dude, it was a question.
(November 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Do you care about the souls of atheists? I NEVER made any assumption. Relax, you already answered the question. Sheesh!
Please GC, before you get all defensive, you should slow down and read all posts in original context.
Presuming I am piggybacking on another member's theme is a bad way to present sound answers to direct questions.
And though you may disagree, or fail to recognize the concept, our responses are always qualifiers, one way or another
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 9:20 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: @GC,
Yours, is a non response. Do you care about the souls of atheists? Can you help us understand by the power of the holy spirit, or is this just man-on-man with no god involved? Is there any power in the blood of Jesus? Can you take down our strongholds with mighty weapons we know nothing of? Will you?
I pray for God to open your hearts, it is He who does such work, if you find yourself unmoved by God he has either given up on you because He knows your final outcome or, it's not the right time for Him to convict your heart.
GC
PS What I said id I did not care what someone thought about me, I said nothing about what I think about others, you need to revamp your thinking and bring it around to reasoning the simple.
GC
Wait, so if he answers your prayer, he exists. If he doesn't, he exists. Sounds logical.
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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