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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm
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(December 8, 2013 at 11:07 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (December 8, 2013 at 10:01 am)StrongWaters Wrote: As the OP, I have the high ground as long as no valid arguments against the premise exist.
Err, no you don't. That's now how academic or logical inquiry work.
As Esquilax has already tried to elucidate to you, simply having a position does infer any sort of validity.
Some positions are so baseless and absurd that they can be dismissed outright, doubly so when do verifiable evidence is not produced to back up the assertion. Indeed, the burden of proof is entirely on you to present. Thus far your claims are irresolvable precisely because there is no evidence aside assertion. For this reason, they can be easily dismissed as nonsense until such a time that verifiable evidence can be forwarded.
Case in point. I am the abrahamic god.
Disprove my claim.
I am surprised that you didn't already understand this basic function of logic.
Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.
Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics, chirality demonstrates my premise with no room for argument. The only way for two asymmetrical things to be superimposed on the other is with a symmetrical catalyst. You suggest there is no connection. I have demonstrated that there is. Scientific observation confirms me on every level. If you would like to deny, you must first show error in my premise.
Apart from translation invariance and symmetry laws, none of this is possible. God claims the laws and mirrors them with parable and proverb, which are outlines for the simple mind to understand. For instance, when God states that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, he is demonstrating invariant symmetry. Again, evident. The proof is above and below. What I show you is the root, or the fact that no other transitional intermediaries are needed to reduce as a foundation. Additionally, the higher axiom then resolves any contradiction or paradox below.
From the mouth of the Nobel Lauriates, here is the digital universe. It is founded on letters and word, or sequences of information forming logical symmetries. Those symmetries are translational by nature and never change, but instead change what they reveal. Light cannot be seen. It reveals what it hits. The light does not change.
For more on this, you might want to educate yourself on symmetry laws.
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The OP stands. You now have more proof to work around. Simply saying it is not true is empty.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm
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Amino acids are not letters. DNA is not letters. It is chemistry, not word play. Your chain of 'logic' is laughable - you see connections where there are none.
I'm sure you think this is a great, prophetic truth you hold, but it is nonsense.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet.
And there's where you hit a stumbling block, because DNA is not an alphabet. It's a series of chemicals behaving in accordance with physics. That we assign letters to the sequences in it is only a shortening of the extant names for the chemicals within. So, given that your premise is faulty, the rest of your "evident truth," simply can't be.
Quote: God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics, chirality demonstrates my premise with no room for argument. The only way for two asymmetrical things to be superimposed on the other is with a symmetrical catalyst. You suggest there is no connection. I have demonstrated that there is. Scientific observation confirms me on every level. If you would like to deny, you must first show error in my premise.
Not to mention that your actual reasoning is nothing more than drawing a connection after the fact, and assuming that because you can stretch your mind to accept this, it must also be true in reverse, and therefore your assumption is the root cause. You're putting the imaginary cart before the illusory horse, and then trying to drive both through the real world.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:32 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Chas Wrote: Amino acids are not letters. DNA is not letters. It is chemistry, not word play. Your chain of 'logic' is laughable - you see connections where there are none.
I'm sure you think this is a great, prophetic truth you hold, but it is nonsense.
DNA / RNA / amino acids are specified by several different codons, accounting for all 64 three-letter combinations.
" ... stored on one of the two strands of a DNA molecules as a linear, non-overlapping sequence of the nitrogenous bases Adenine (A), Guanine (G), Cytosine © and Thymine (T). These are the "alphabet" of letters that are used to write the "code words"." <LINK REMOVED>
"As the DNA ‘alphabet’ contains four letters - called bases - there are as many as 64 three-letter words available in the DNA dictionary. This is because it is mathematically possible to produce 64 three-letter words from any combination of four letters.
But why there should be 64 words in the DNA dictionary which translate into just 20 amino acids, and why a process that is more complex than it needs to be should have evolved in the first place, has puzzled scientists for the last 40 years." <LINK REMOVED>
As they keep looking deeper and deeper into this, they see information. Your statements are incorrect. This guy in the video is smarter than you and I combined. What is his conclusion?
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm
I accidently herped my derp entering this thread.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm
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(December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (December 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet.
And there's where you hit a stumbling block, because DNA is not an alphabet. It's a series of chemicals behaving in accordance with physics. That we assign letters to the sequences in it is only a shortening of the extant names for the chemicals within. So, given that your premise is faulty, the rest of your "evident truth," simply can't be.
What you state above is incorrect. You can read the links in my last comment. Any article you read will refer to it as an alphabet. Find one that says it is not and post it. Feel free.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:37 pm
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(December 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: (December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: And there's where you hit a stumbling block, because DNA is not an alphabet. It's a series of chemicals behaving in accordance with physics. That we assign letters to the sequences in it is only a shortening of the extant names for the chemicals within. So, given that your premise is faulty, the rest of your "evident truth," simply can't be.
What you state above is incorrect. You can read the links in my last comment. Any article you read will refer to it as an alphabet. Find one that says it is not and post it. Feel free.
You don't understand what a metaphor is.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I accidently herped my derp entering this thread.
That was no accident.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Chas Wrote: (December 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: What you state above is incorrect. You can read the links in my last comment. Any article you read will refer to it as an alphabet. Find one that says it is not and post it. Feel free.
You don't understand what a metaphor is.
So, when you refer to the Alphabet of DNA as a metaphor, you are saying that man needs a metaphor to understand DNA, so he uses Alphabet to describe the coding in life? Is this correct? You then deny that God uses the same metaphor. Interesting. Simple minds need simple metaphors.
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
December 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Chas Wrote: (December 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: What you state above is incorrect. You can read the links in my last comment. Any article you read will refer to it as an alphabet. Find one that says it is not and post it. Feel free.
You don't understand what a metaphor is.
Next he'll be telling us he saw the word "Elohim" appear in his alphabet soup.
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