Atheists condone and condemn rape

[Sleepy]

Marital rape exemptions in this country were adopted from the English common law exemption, first articulated in 1736 by English Chief Justice Matthew Hale in History of the Pleas of Crown: :"[T]he husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract.... [I]n marriage she hath given up her body to her husband ... "3

Check yourself once again.

You can lying to that list of living in denial, avoidance, confusion hahaha

[Bad Wolf]

Marital rape exemptions in this country were adopted from the English common law exemption, first articulated in 1736 by English Chief Justice Matthew Hale in History of the Pleas of Crown: :"[T]he husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract.... [I]n marriage she hath given up her body to her husband ... "3

Check yourself once again.

You can lying to that list of living in denial, avoidance, confusion hahaha

Its not 1736 any more you stupid fucking arrogant idiot. The world was a much more horrible place back then in England. I don't care, its changed now. So you are saying that Islam marriages are on the same level, morally, as 18th century England. That's an insult to your religion, not a compliment.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Marital rape exemptions in this country were adopted from the English common law exemption, first articulated in 1736 by English Chief Justice Matthew Hale in History of the Pleas of Crown: :"[T]he husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract.... [I]n marriage she hath given up her body to her husband ... "3

Check yourself once again.

You can lying to that list of living in denial, avoidance, confusion hahaha

FALSE
http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/maritalrape2.php

Check your facts, potato brain.

Also, legislation ratified in the 20th century supersedes that of the fucking 18th century.

I know you're used to wanting to rape your partners even if he says no and wanting to live in the dark ages, but don't try and lower us all to your standards.

Got any more 'facts' you want me to debunk? I can go all day, especially if your facts are just made up inside your own head.

[Ryantology]

I love how Sleepy retorts to our posts by justifying his own reasons for liking rape.

[pineapplebunnybounce]

Oh my god is this really happening?

Opening a thread to support marital rape?

The only reason to keep this guy talking is to make sure he flaunts his stupidity to the fullest. Who knows what other sick shit he believes in.

[Optimistic Mysanthrope]

The marital rape exemption was abolished in 1991. Your knowledge of uk law is slightly less out of date than your crappy holey book. Congratulations, you're making progress

[NoraBrimstone]

“In Islamic sharia, rape is adultery by force.
“So long as the woman is his wife, it cannot be termed as rape. It is reprehensible, but we do not call it rape.”

In reality, Rape is fucking someone who doesn't want to.

“It is not an assault, it is not some kind of jumping on somebody’s individual right.

Yes it is, and yes it is.

“When they got married, the understanding was that sexual intercourse was part of the marriage, so there ­cannot be anything against sex in marriage.

“Of course, if it happened without her desire, that is no good, that is not desirable.”
“He may be disciplined, and he may be made to ask forgiveness"

Sex is often part of a marriage, but that doesn't mean all the time, whether they want to or not. There has to be some mutual respect for each other's feelings in a marriage, too.

Rape is adultery by force.

Nope. No it isn't.

Forcing your wife to have sex with you is not rape, it's unethical and immoral but not rape.

Yes it is. It's definitely rape. Unethical, immoral, rapey rape.

It is a sin upon the husband that Allah will see too, but legally its not rape.

You know why it's a sin? Because it's rape.

That's the last time I repeat the Islamic views as well as those lying for some reason that i support rape and am going to rape somebody. The punishment for rape is death.

You can't pretend you don't support something by changing the definition to something else. You can't say "Shooting someone in the face if they look at you funny, is immoral and wrong, but it's not murder because it's wrong to look at someone funny, so you should't be punished" then say you don't support murder. It's retarded. You're retarded.

'It's wrong because it's traumatic'? And what's wrong with it being traumatic? What does traumatic events have to do with natural selection, spreading your genes, increasing your pleasure. Who cares about anybody else. Spread your genes and only do what you want.

Yup. Sociopath right there.

Second how is it 'wrong?" So you're saying there is absolutes??? That is fundamentally against atheism as wrong and right are determined by individuals.

try again

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Why is rape 'wrong' though?

Keep avoiding and living in denial, contradiction, confusion.

Go on

It's wrong because it's not nice. Unlike you, some people use their brains to figure out what's right and what is wrong. One thing we do to do this is think about how we'd feel if it was us. This may surprise the shit out of you, but, did you know women have feelings? We don't like being sexually violated and treated like a sex doll. How would you like to have someone shove their dick up you when you didn't want it? Would you like that? No? Neither would anyone else. That's why it's wrong. Harming other people is wrong. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

If a woman or man refuses to have sex than that agreement of marriage turns into a disagreement in which case they should not even be together. There's no justifcation for forcing any person to have sex. That is clear

No. Compromise is an important part of any relationship, marriage or not. What other aspects of a relationship would turn a marriage into "a disagreement"? What if they don't want the same meal for dinner? Or want to go on holiday to different destinations? If one or more partner doesn't want sex when the other does, they should masturbate and save the sex for when they both want it. How hard a concept is that for you to understand.

ENGLISH LAW

"But the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract."

The girl from london, check yourself haha

That's from 1736, you fuckwit. Women had no rights at all in England back then. Nearly 300 years ago, we were treated pretty much how Muslim women are treated now. There's been a fair amount of progress since then.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

“In Islamic sharia, rape is adultery by force.
“So long as the woman is his wife, it cannot be termed as rape. It is reprehensible, but we do not call it rape.”

In reality,

To be fair, Nora, I think you lost him at this point.

[Nineteen]

One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything.

Some may believe killing is bad, others it's ok( evolutionary asserting your dominance)
Rape is bad, rape is ok( dominant mammal satisfying sexual desire)

In fact the latter of the two is most in line with atheists as they love to talk about evolutionary adaptations.

So why can't humans rape? Any atheists that condemn rape first of all are going against relativism and assuming there should absolutely be no rape. According to whom? According to whom should there be no rape?
The answer is clear, Allah prohibits rape. The penalty is death.

Atheists live in contradictions, relativity is the foundation of atheisms while many atheists are 'condemning' rape. Rape is jus another action relative to that individual. So it's illogical for atheists to condemn it.

Islam= Probibits rape
Atheists= rape is ok to some and bad to some

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Atheist responses- it's bad. You can't force somebody.

Why not? Why is it 'bad'? What's wrong with a male spreading his genes through dominating a weaker individual. Survival of the fittest right? Why is it 'wrong'?

I'm agree about some parts , and not agree about other some parts .

So I believe the morality is innate and a human with an atheist belief doesnt mean that s/he is immoral. But atheist people is much more inclided for immoral behaviors . I've witnessed it in some atheist population density countries . You can roughly estimate about the behaviors of religious people , but you cant imagine about atheist people , anything can happen , there is no limit , this is much more dangerous .

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Fuck you. "Much more inclined to immoral behaviours".

Here's looking at you, love. You wonder why you get shit in your face when you come out with tripe like that.

You judgemental sanctimonious cunt.