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[The Reality Salesman01]

...and you didn't reconcile your use of near death experience as ACTUAL experience after death. All you've done is make an observation that doctors can be wrong in their pronouncements and then later be surprised. Reading and comprehending complete sentences seems to be as difficult for you as constructing them.

[Little Rik]

The real meaning of yoga is UNION WITH THE INFINTY.

I instead said that yoga is union with the infinite which has nothing to do with me saying that i found union with the infinite.

Either you do know union with the infinite or you don't. If you do know, you're boasting. If you don't know it, you speak from ignorance.Do you know, as in having experienced it, union with the infinite? If not, where does your knowledge of how it is attained come from? How can you claim to know the real meaning of yoga if you've never experienced it yourself?

Well, considering your total ignorance about yoga you got to be excused for this silly question.
If i would have reached union with the infinity i wouldn't be here now to struggle trying to reach it.
At the same time as you get closer to this union something within tell you that this is the right way to follow.
A drop of water final destination is to reach the ocean and become one with it.
The drop does not understand why she got to merge into the ocean but something inside make her go ahead.
In her case is the gravity as the consciousness within is in a dormant stage.
Also animals are driven by instinct and by natural laws although the consciousness start kicking in.
In human being where the consciousness is more active there is more and more urgency to finalize the task to reach the goal of life.
You and all other guys in this forum and in all other forums and in all other places on earth and everywhere where there is life also do not know where their final destination is but nevertheless everybody keep on moving forward by listening, asking questions or by any other means.
Why you do that if not by going further and further in your search for the goal of life?
However the difference between yoga and all the rest is that you got a practical method that lead to this union while the rest goes ahead without a proper method and this is a terrible waste of time.
You can reach the goal anyway but it is like to learn something without a teacher. It is a lot harder.
How then you know that yoga lead to union with the infinity?
By climbing the mountain you see and feel more and more excited and you know that the more you climb the excited increase so you know that the peak will be the goal.
When the excitement does not come by using drugs or by any other artificial means then you know that this is the truth.

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...and you didn't reconcile your use of near death experience as ACTUAL experience after death. All you've done is make an observation that doctors can be wrong in their pronouncements and then later be surprised. Reading and comprehending complete sentences seems to be as difficult for you as constructing them.

Why would the doctors admit that they were wrong?
You say that.
You may even find some doctors that would admit that they were wrong but maybe you may find other doctors that do not.
It all depend on beliefs however when the heart and brain show no activity you can't really say that the guy is alive, right!

[Angrboda]

Either you do know union with the infinite or you don't. If you do know, you're boasting. If you don't know it, you speak from ignorance.Do you know, as in having experienced it, union with the infinite? If not, where does your knowledge of how it is attained come from? How can you claim to know the real meaning of yoga if you've never experienced it yourself?

.... You and all other guys in this forum and in all other forums and in all other places on earth and everywhere where there is life also do not know where their final destination is ...

So, that's a "yes," that you do not know what you're talking about when you say "union with the infinite."

Thank you for the clarification.

[The Reality Salesman01]

Either you do know union with the infinite or you don't. If you do know, you're boasting. If you don't know it, you speak from ignorance.Do you know, as in having experienced it, union with the infinite? If not, where does your knowledge of how it is attained come from? How can you claim to know the real meaning of yoga if you've never experienced it yourself?

Well, considering your total ignorance about yoga you got to be excused for this silly question.
If i would have reached union with the infinity i wouldn't be here now to struggle trying to reach it.
At the same time as you get closer to this union something within tell you that this is the right way to follow.
A drop of water final destination is to reach the ocean and become one with it.
The drop does not understand why she got to merge into the ocean but something inside make her go ahead.
In her case is the gravity as the consciousness within is in a dormant stage.
Also animals are driven by instinct and by natural laws although the consciousness start kicking in.
In human being where the consciousness is more active there is more and more urgency to finalize the task to reach the goal of life.
You and all other guys in this forum and in all other forums and in all other places on earth and everywhere where there is life also do not know where their final destination is but nevertheless everybody keep on moving forward by listening, asking questions or by any other means.
Why you do that if not by going further and further in your search for the goal of life?
However the difference between yoga and all the rest is that you got a practical method that lead to this union while the rest goes ahead without a proper method and this is a terrible waste of time.
You can reach the goal anyway but it is like to learn something without a teacher. It is a lot harder.
How then you know that yoga lead to union with the infinity?
By climbing the mountain you see and feel more and more excited and you know that the more you climb the excited increase so you know that the peak will be the goal.
When the excitement does not come by using drugs or by any other artificial means then you know that this is the truth.

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...and you didn't reconcile your use of near death experience as ACTUAL experience after death. All you've done is make an observation that doctors can be wrong in their pronouncements and then later be surprised. Reading and comprehending complete sentences seems to be as difficult for you as constructing them.

Why would the doctors admit that they were wrong?
You say that.
You may even find some doctors that would admit that they were wrong but maybe you may find other doctors that do not.
It all depend on beliefs however when the heart and brain show no activity you can't really say that the guy is alive, right!

You've managed to miss the point again. Whether or not the doctors admit they were wrong is irrelevant to the truth. If they deem a person dead, and that person gets up a few hours later and is cognitively aware once again, they are not, and therefore were not dead. Prematurely announced as dead? Yes. Near dead? Maybe. But certainly NOT dead.
Don't you understand? This isn't really all that difficult.

[Little Rik]

You've managed to miss the point again. Whether or not the doctors admit they were wrong is irrelevant to the truth. If they deem a person dead, and that person gets up a few hours later and is cognitively aware once again, they are not, and therefore were not dead. Prematurely announced as dead? Yes. Near dead? Maybe. But certainly NOT dead.
Don't you understand? This isn't really all that difficult.

I am afraid that is you that find difficult to understand.
For you and for the physical science is very hard to comprehend how a dead person can come back to life but for God everything is possible.
Obviously this thing is off for an atheist as it would lead to a total collapse of the atheist theory that life is finite.
Even 2000 years ago Christ raises Lazarus from the death and he was dead for a week already.

[pocaracas]

[Esquilax]

... I swore off this thread, but...

EEEEE ERIDAN!

[The Reality Salesman01]

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Obviously this thing is off for an atheist as it would lead to a total collapse of the atheist theory that life is finite.
Even 2000 years ago Christ raises Lazarus from the death and he was dead for a week already.

Obviously you hard to realize truth. For if you recall, Odysseus slayed the suiters, and avoided the Syrens. And you recall that Zeus did not make mention of Jesus. You will not see truth, it make crumble of the Jesus.

[Little Rik]

you do not know what you're talking about when you say "union with the infinite."

One day one of Sarkar follower was commenting about Sarkar microvita theory and said......... even the celebrated scientists do not fully comprehend the mystery of the atoms of matter despite having so much studies. How can we laymen understand the mystery of Microvita which are billion times subtler than the tiny atoms ?" ........
Sarkar reply........ " No, that's not the case with you boys and girls. The so-called scientists contemplate matter only while you primarily meditate of pure consciousness. Consciousness controls matter and not the vice-versa. Naturally, then your talents can make superior scientists out of you in the future."
The problem rasetsu is that it takes time to reach the top whatever you try to achieve but the good news is that the sooner you start the task and the sooner you get there.
So at the end what counts is doing something about not whining and grumble all the time like you do.

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Obviously this thing is off for an atheist as it would lead to a total collapse of the atheist theory that life is finite.
Even 2000 years ago Christ raises Lazarus from the death and he was dead for a week already.

Obviously you hard to realize truth. For if you recall, Odysseus slayed the suiters, and avoided the Syrens. And you recall that Zeus did not make mention of Jesus. You will not see truth, it make crumble of the Jesus.

One small tiny particular.
Nobody witness Odysseus or Zeus doing things while thousand of people witness Jesus doing things.
I do understand that witness mean nothing to you but that is the way it goes boy.

[The Reality Salesman01]

you do not know what you're talking about when you say "union with the infinite."

One day one of Sarkar follower was commenting about Sarkar microvita theory and said......... even the celebrated scientists do not fully comprehend the mystery of the atoms of matter despite having so much studies. How can we laymen understand the mystery of Microvita which are billion times subtler than the tiny atoms ?" ........
Sarkar reply........ " No, that's not the case with you boys and girls. The so-called scientists contemplate matter only while you primarily meditate of pure consciousness. Consciousness controls matter and not the vice-versa. Naturally, then your talents can make superior scientists out of you in the future."
The problem rasetsu is that it takes time to reach the top whatever you try to achieve but the good news is that the sooner you start the task and the sooner you get there.
So at the end what counts is doing something about not whining and grumble all the time like you do.

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Obviously you hard to realize truth. For if you recall, Odysseus slayed the suiters, and avoided the Syrens. And you recall that Zeus did not make mention of Jesus. You will not see truth, it make crumble of the Jesus.

One small tiny particular.
Nobody witness Odysseus or Zeus doing things while thousand of people witness Jesus doing things.
I do understand that witness mean nothing to you but that is the way it goes boy.

There were many witnesses, but you choose to be blind. Plato writes of the Gods, and mention no Jesus. You choose to acknowledge some witness, and ignore others. Your path to enlightenment is cloud by your bias.