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December 13, 2013 at 7:20 pm
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(December 13, 2013 at 9:17 am)enrico Wrote: IF LOVE IS NOT GENERATED IN THE HEART IS PERHAPS GENERATED IN THE BACKSIDE? 
You do know that there are about 3500 heart transplants performed each year, and they've been performing them since the late 60's.
And not once did any recipient of a donor heart ever start loving the people the donor did. The recipient continus to love the people they did before the heart transplant.
Just as would be expected if the heart is a blood pumping muscle, that does not house emotions.
And to further add to your complete fail, there have been 1000's of people that have had brain injuries that have had personality changes, and have stopped loving people they previously loved before the injury. Yet their heart has remained unchanged.
Just as would be expected if love is a brain function.
So, to sum up.
Heart transplant - no change in love.
Brain injury - personality change, including who the injured loves.
To sum up even further, you're a moron.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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December 13, 2013 at 7:35 pm
(December 13, 2013 at 9:17 am)enrico Wrote: IF LOVE IS NOT GENERATED IN THE HEART IS PERHAPS GENERATED IN THE BACKSIDE?
Oh, gosh, how could I have missed this gem?
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December 14, 2013 at 12:27 am
(December 13, 2013 at 7:35 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (December 13, 2013 at 9:17 am)enrico Wrote: IF LOVE IS NOT GENERATED IN THE HEART IS PERHAPS GENERATED IN THE BACKSIDE?
Oh, gosh, how could I have missed this gem?
Enrico mistakenly thinks that, because he's full of shit, that must just be a biological function of the human race as a whole.
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December 14, 2013 at 12:49 am
(December 13, 2013 at 7:20 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (December 13, 2013 at 9:17 am)enrico Wrote: IF LOVE IS NOT GENERATED IN THE HEART IS PERHAPS GENERATED IN THE BACKSIDE?
You do know that there are about 3500 heart transplants performed each year, and they've been performing them since the late 60's.
And not once did any recipient of a donor heart ever start loving the people the donor did. The recipient continus to love the people they did before the heart transplant.
Just as would be expected if the heart is a blood pumping muscle, that does not house emotions.
And to further add to your complete fail, there have been 1000's of people that have had brain injuries that have had personality changes, and have stopped loving people they previously loved before the injury. Yet their heart has remained unchanged.
Just as would be expected if love is a brain function.
So, to sum up.
Heart transplant - no change in love.
Brain injury - personality change, including who the injured loves.
To sum up even further, you're a moron.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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December 14, 2013 at 1:01 am
(December 10, 2013 at 10:09 am)Zazzy Wrote: If Enrico is suggesting, as he appears to be, that we should open our chest cavities to verify whether or not our hearts are inside, it's a positive step. He's actually ascribing human emotion to an anatomical structure, albeit the wrong one. But still, a step in the right direction.
Luckily, enrico, we don't have to open our chests to study love.
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December 14, 2013 at 1:22 am
(December 14, 2013 at 12:27 am)Esquilax Wrote: (December 13, 2013 at 7:35 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Oh, gosh, how could I have missed this gem?
Enrico mistakenly thinks that, because he's full of shit, that must just be a biological function of the human race as a whole.
Hahahaha, hall of shame worthiness on the part of enrico.
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December 14, 2013 at 6:15 am
All very interesting considering the situation. 
So, let me summarize.
From now on we have to throw in the rubbish bin of history all the knowledge that we have gather in the last million years.
This knowledge was telling us that the brain is the place where the thinking come from and the heart is the place where the feeling come from.
Actually is all a bit more complicated as the heart, the brain and all other factors are controlled by glands or cakras but i don't really want to go deep in this as it would be futile considering the level of consciousness among some people here.
In the meantime it is interesting and funny to see people searching something NON physical like love by using physical tools.
Gee, i open the heart and i can not find love or i open the skull and i can't find the thought. How sad.
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December 14, 2013 at 6:59 am
Rico, you're not surprising anyone that you can't find a thought in your skull.
As for the heart = love thing, that's no big mystery. It's a perfectly reasonable poetic description of the feeling of love. A tightness in the chest, heart pounding, trouble breathing. But that's the symptom, not the cause; which, as we now know, is the brain. That also explains why to you, love resides in your backside.
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December 14, 2013 at 7:07 am
(December 14, 2013 at 6:59 am)Stimbo Wrote: Rico, you're not surprising anyone that you can't find a thought in your skull.
As for the heart = love thing, that's no big mystery. It's a perfectly reasonable poetic description of the feeling of love. A tightness in the chest, heart pounding, trouble breathing. But that's the symptom, not the cause; which, as we now know, is the brain. That also explains why to you, love resides in your backside.
As we now know...........
Are you speaking for me?
But, tell me, is not that these WE are the same guys saying that medical science is winning the war on diseases?
No wonder Stimbo!
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December 14, 2013 at 7:09 am
I think Stimbo was speaking for real, legitimate humans with functioning brains, Rico.
So no, not for you.
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