Israel Never Did a Thing to the Arabs

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Boohoo, what difference does it make who it were that voted to be generous with someone else's land to solve their own problems at other people's expense while indulge in the appearance of the moral high ground to boot?

The key is the Arabs and Palestinians, who ought to have a veto, didn't.

The land WAS the land of the Ottoman empire. Then it became the land of the League of Nations and then it became land of the United Nations. The partition plan was based on the settlement of people who were there in 1947.

Jews who had migrated into Palestine before WW2 did not steal land, they bought it, for cash, from the Owners.

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Man this thread is going to shit...

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Man this thread is going to shit...

It is the nature of all I/P issues

[ska88]

Palestine was basically empty. The purpose of creating their own state is to give them a place to be safe from antisemitism.

Above all, this country is our own. Nobody has to get up in the morning and worry what his neighbors think of him. Being a Jew is no problem here.

-Golda Meir

Also, all you have pointed is is that Zionism is not Judaism. We already all know that. Zionism is a secular movement, not a religious movement. We Zionists couldn't care less about what Judaism has to say. You also say Zionism isn't Jewish, I think you mean to say that Zionism isn't Judaic.

It is not only a matter, I believe, of religious observance and practice. To me, being Jewish means and has always meant being proud to be part of a people that has maintained its distinct identity for more than 2,000 years, with all the pain and torment that has been inflicted upon it.

-Golda Meir

What is ur evidence that Palestine was empty ? And is that legal taking over someone else's land even if it was empty?

And if they don't care about jews' opinion about creating a land why do they give themselves the right to start a movement that aims to create Israel to gather the jews in it? I mean they dont even care about their opinion ..then why to care about protecting them from antisemitism?

If it was a secular movement that doesnt really care about religion or faith.. then why Jerusalem ? Why they chose the holy land to be theirs? They r not loyal to any religion , then why caring about antisemitism, jews and the temple of Solomon?

U know what .. I'm really interested to hear more explanation .. its the first time I know that they r actually people who justify the existence of zionism I thought even jews dont agree with that! Plz continue .

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Palestine was basically empty. The purpose of creating their own state is to give them a place to be safe from antisemitism.



-Golda Meir

Also, all you have pointed is is that Zionism is not Judaism. We already all know that. Zionism is a secular movement, not a religious movement. We Zionists couldn't care less about what Judaism has to say. You also say Zionism isn't Jewish, I think you mean to say that Zionism isn't Judaic.

-Golda Meir

What is ur evidence that Palestine was empty ? And is that legal taking over someone else's land even if it was empty?

And if they don't care about jews' opinion about creating a land why do they give themselves the right to start a movement that aims to create Israel to gather the jews in it? I mean they dont even care about their opinion ..then why to care about protecting them from antisemitism?

If it was a secular movement that doesnt really care about religion or faith.. then why Jerusalem ? Why they chose the holy land to be theirs? They r not loyal to any religion , then why caring about antisemitism, jews and the temple of Solomon?

U know what .. I'm really interested to hear more explanation .. its the first time I know that they r actually people who justify the existence of zionism I thought even jews dont agree with that! Plz continue .

Because being a Jew doesn't mean being religious. Ever heard if Jewish atheism? I already quoted Golda Meir (who was herself an atheist) on this topic.

Why Jerusalem you ask? Because the Jews have historic secular links to their homeland.

Secular Jews created Israel. Secular Jews are the truest of Zionists!

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Boohoo, what difference does it make who it were that voted to be generous with someone else's land to solve their own problems at other people's expense while indulge in the appearance of the moral high ground to boot?

The key is the Arabs and Palestinians, who ought to have a veto, didn't.

The land WAS the land of the Ottoman empire. Then it became the land of the League of Nations and then it became land of the United Nations. The partition plan was based on the settlement of people who were there in 1947.

Jews who had migrated into Palestine before WW2 did not steal land, they bought it, for cash, from the Owners.

Do you mean the Beleaguered Nations had, and The United (State's) Nations has the power to misappropriate, apportion, partition, and award land to whoever it sees fit and whenever it pleases?!! hock:

Satan Almighty, this means the "Australian" aborigines, who have continuously lived in Australia for at least 40,000 years, (not a couple of thousand years ago like the Red Sea Pedestrians) only have to say the Rainbow Spirit gave the continent to them exclusively for all time and the United (State's) Nations can take away my little half acre and give it to Jacky, the 1/32nd part aboriginal and government financed permanent student of Ngadhundi at Sydney University, who swears his ancestors lived on it 37,000 years ago!!

Gawd fuck me Foley, don't tell me I'll have to go all the way to Inverness, Scotland and tell whoever is there now to get off my fucking sacred land 'cause my ancestors lived there only 160 years ago, and the U(State's)N and The Green Man said so too!

[ska88]

An the purpose wasn't to avoid anti-semitism, as the act of pushing people off their land and being general dicks was not a way to avoid social stigma.

Actually.. thats so true!! I really liked this opinion.

If the reason of creating a land for jews is to protect them from antisemitism! Then stealing others land and thus creating new enemies will not be the solution to that!

That makes me more suspicious about zionism ! They use the Holocaust and the suffering of the jews to justify their criminal actions in the whole world not just palestine!

If my parents died in the Holocaust I would never allow them to use their suffering and death to do more crimes!!

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Zionists thought the Arabs would be their friends & allies. Herzl even talked of this in the Old New Land. But they did not count on Arab-Islamic racism & hatred. The Arabs actually displaced themselves rather than live in peace with the Jews during the Arab exodus. Then they commenced a war of annihilation & extermination against the Jews, but the Jews won.

All Israel wants is to exist in peace as a Jewish state. Everyone who isn't a racist should support Israel. Those who don't support Israel, and are not racist, have been misled by media bias against Israel.

Hell what about the IRISH! The grass is emerald green and the cattle are fat as fucking inbred oxen! Plus the children are all immune to paedophilia and the like... not that any scientist has ever thought to research this odd phenomena. I think we deserve our two two cents of being represented as a kickass race on earth just as the you say about the juze!

[ska88]

Do you mean the Beleaguered Nations had, and The United (State's) Nations has the power to misappropriate, apportion, partition, and award land to whoever it sees fit and whenever it pleases?!! hock:

They actually can. If you read the UN declarations for human rights u will be shocked!!

I'll give u an example.. "Singapore"

It was all Malaysia. . until the Chinese immigration to Singapore.

and because of the great numbers of Chinese people in that land and because they demanded their rights as the majority to split from Malaysia and create their own land.. the UN did all the voting stuff.. and here there is new Singapore! !

I think thats what the UN did to justify the existence of Israel except that Israeli r not even the majority!

UN is the daughter of the zionist movement so dont be surprised

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Because being a Jew doesn't mean being religious. Ever heard if Jewish atheism? I already quoted Golda Meir (who was herself an atheist) on this topic.

Why Jerusalem you ask? Because the Jews have historic secular links to their homeland.

Secular Jews created Israel. Secular Jews are the truest of Zionists!

Yes u can be a jew but not religious.. but u cant be "not religious" and use religion to justify ur criminal actions!! U cant be "not religious" and pretend that u r doing what u do for religious purpose.

Being secular really makes their passion towards Jerusalem sooo suspecious!!

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Do you mean the Beleaguered Nations had, and The United (State's) Nations has the power to misappropriate, apportion, partition, and award land to whoever it sees fit and whenever it pleases?!! hock:

They actually can. If you read the UN declarations for human rights u will be shocked!!

I'll give u an example.. "Singapore"

It was all Malaysia. . until the Chinese immigration to Singapore.

and because of the great numbers of Chinese people in that land and because they demanded their rights as the majority to split from Malaysia and create their own land.. the UN did all the voting stuff.. and here there is new Singapore! !

I think thats what the UN did to justify the existence of Israel except that Israeli r not even the majority!

UN is the daughter of the zionist movement so dont be surprised

Wow wow wow wow hold on there. What the hell, you come on here and lie about people's history? Singapore and Malaysia is the result of the racial and religious shit that has been going on because of the laws of Malaysia that insists on treating muslims differently than nonmuslims, nonmuslims are severely discriminated against by governmental policies and taxes and don't even get me started on shariah. Singapore (nonmuslim majority) wanted to remain Malaysia but asked for equal rights and got VOTED OUT by Malaysia (muslim majority) and was expelled and had to become their own country.

By the way, that split was the best thing that ever happened to them, look at Singapore and Malaysia now. That is what you get for discriminating against 40% of your population.