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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 6, 2014 at 5:44 pm
(January 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm)StoryBook Wrote: No, but I have been starting to eat more vegan/vegetarian. It is much healthier,but I believe we are built as omnivores. I do disapprove of how slaughterer animals are treated, but death for food is the cycle of life. I work on a dairy farm and have stop drinking real milk and am cutting out a lot of my dairy.
Also PETA are a bunch of lying, cult like, hypocrite, greedy idiots. They kill 98% of the animals they take in. Use out dated videos, and do half the things they say they are against. Most of the money from donations go in their pockets, or for more advertising, not the animals. Oh they did buy a large million dollar freezer to put the animals they kill in.
I'm not against people who want to eat meat eating it, since nobody voted me Master of the Universe. However, that's quite the collection of non sequiturs and red herrings you've got there. Methinks the omnivore doth protest too much?
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 6, 2014 at 5:58 pm
(January 6, 2014 at 5:44 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (January 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm)StoryBook Wrote: No, but I have been starting to eat more vegan/vegetarian. It is much healthier,but I believe we are built as omnivores. I do disapprove of how slaughterer animals are treated, but death for food is the cycle of life. I work on a dairy farm and have stop drinking real milk and am cutting out a lot of my dairy.
Also PETA are a bunch of lying, cult like, hypocrite, greedy idiots. They kill 98% of the animals they take in. Use out dated videos, and do half the things they say they are against. Most of the money from donations go in their pockets, or for more advertising, not the animals. Oh they did buy a large million dollar freezer to put the animals they kill in.
I'm not against people who want to eat meat eating it, since nobody voted me Master of the Universe. However, that's quite the collection of non sequiturs and red herrings you've got there. Methinks the omnivore doth protest too much?
Lol, I meant I was eating more vegetables and less dairy. There are more restrictions on slaughter then there use to be. Have you heard of Temple Grandin? Shes an animal scientist/behaviorist that has helped a lot of slaughter houses to be less stressful for the animals.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 6, 2014 at 9:56 pm
I've recently increased my meat intake by 50%, so much so that I've had to add a fourth meal to the day to fit it in.
I'm undoing all your hard work lololololol.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 6, 2014 at 10:20 pm
Only a vegetarian when the meat at the college cafeteria was left out for hours and gave me diarrhea.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 7, 2014 at 12:36 am
(January 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm)StoryBook Wrote: No, but I have been starting to eat more vegan/vegetarian. It is much healthier,but I believe we are built as omnivores.
Ill not be bothered to argue with people above with their hackeney quips
If they are meat eaters and animals mean nothing to them then there is just no point even discussing with them. two of them have just given the same stupid overused comments and ,no doubt, think they are hilarious. You have made a number of libels.
Firstly
We can eat an omninvorous diet but it doesn't make it ethically right.
Quote: I do disapprove of how slaughterer animals are treated, but death for food is the cycle of life.
The 'cycle of life' is a disney song, I can sing hymns to god and it doesn't make it real
Quote:I work on a dairy farm and have stop drinking real milk and am cutting out a lot of my dairy.
So you find the business abhorrent yet you derive your income from it...I see
Quote:Also PETA are a bunch of lying, cult like, hypocrite, greedy idiots. They kill 98% of the animals they take in.
Bullshit. You are lying through your teeth and repeating stuff found online published by a pro factory farming group.
They do not kill anything like that amount. for a start they send any healthy rehomeable animal to alternate shelters. Those shelters will not take chronically sick or animals ,like pitbulls, that are unrehomeable. Peta put to sleep animals that have chronic issues because it feels that keeping something suffering is abhorrent -and I agree. They euthanise animals with the utmost care, indeed it started because their leader worked in a pound and was outraged by the way the workers killed animals so she took the job over to make it as painless as possible
Quote:Use out dated videos
???
Quote:, and do half the things they say they are against
Give examples with proof
Quote:. Most of the money from donations go in their pockets,
Give examples with proof. Peta salaries are absolutely tiny.Ingrid Newkirk takes a salary of 23,000 dollars a year so you are lying through your teeth or so gullible you will beleive ANYTHING written by the farm lobby (who you work for)
or for more advertising,
Advertising brings in revenue -which is spent on projects
Quote: not the animals.
Yes, it goes on the animals
Quote: Oh they did buy a large million dollar freezer to put the animals they kill in
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It is a state requirement.
Lets see some proof to back up your absurd libellous accusations. Links to an agro business website is OT proof any more than links to a christian website gives proof of god.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 7, 2014 at 1:02 am
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(January 6, 2014 at 5:58 pm)StoryBook Wrote: Have you heard of Temple Grandin? Shes an animal scientist/behaviorist that has helped a lot of slaughter houses to be less stressful for the animals.
Yes I have, autism activist is well known here in Oz. I thought she looked familiar when there was a Landline article on how we are treating outr livestock and some insights into how best to improve
Her bio HERE
Sorry bennyboy but PETA ain't as saintly as we are lead to believe. Can't give you news articles, but they and our own Animals Australia are appearing more and more liken to cults and so are losing any credibility they had.
For the record...Omnivore. In answer to OP ...yes there are quite a number of Vegans/ Vegetarians on this forum.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 7, 2014 at 1:16 am
I don't support PETA. They want to get rid of animal experimentation, that's a pretty uninformed position to take. Not sure if they are up to any shady business though.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 7, 2014 at 2:46 am
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(January 7, 2014 at 1:02 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (January 6, 2014 at 5:58 pm)StoryBook Wrote: Have you heard of Temple Grandin? Shes an animal scientist/behaviorist that has helped a lot of slaughter houses to be less stressful for the animals.
Yes I have, autism activist is well known here in Oz. I thought she looked familiar when there was a Landline article on how we are treating outr livestock and some insights into how best to improve
Her bio HERE
Sorry bennyboy but PETA ain't as saintly as we are lead to believe. Can't give you news articles, but they and our own Animals Australia are appearing more and more liken to cults and so are losing any credibility they had.
For the record...Omnivore. In answer to OP ...yes there are quite a number of Vegans/ Vegetarians on this forum.
I am familiar with temple grandin too. She has done excellent work in helping to alleviate suffering.
As for peta now you are behaving like a christian...no proof you just expect us to have 'faith' in your generalised and utterly unproven claims.
they are 'like a cult' so they make their members shun contact with the outside world, subject them to psychological tyranny? Forbid them from leaving the group? What exactly?
(January 7, 2014 at 1:16 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I don't support PETA. They want to get rid of animal experimentation, that's a pretty uninformed position to take. Not sure if they are up to any shady business though.
Its your opinion that its a pretty uninformed position to take. Animal experimentation is next to useless since testing on non humans gives very different results from testing on humans. If we had testing 150 years ago there would be no Chocolate or Aspirin (which poison dogs) on the other hand Thalidomide WAS extensively tested on animals but was still responsible for a generation of birth defects. Also ,personally, I value all sentient life and I don't consider that whatever humans need comes before the interests of animals.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 7, 2014 at 2:51 am
(January 7, 2014 at 1:02 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Sorry bennyboy but PETA ain't as saintly as we are lead to believe. Can't give you news articles, but they and our own Animals Australia are appearing more and more liken to cults and so are losing any credibility they had.
lol bennywho? You talking to me? About PETA? Why?
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 7, 2014 at 2:53 am
PETA isn't all they are cracked up to be.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...ar-report/
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/pet....html?_r=0
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-w...79220.html
But I am not vegetarian or a vegan. I enjoy meat...A LOT. I don't like it if an animal suffers, but I don't lose sleep over it either. Animals suffer all the time in nature. The hawk isn't worried if the cute bunny rabbit is being given an inhumane death when it's disemboweling it while it's still alive.
The way I look at it life, started on this planet with a single common ancestor and it will end with a single descendent...humans. There will come a time when our population reaches a maximum capacity and we will eventually have to choose between giving animals a place to live or people. I'll side with people. We protect animals that are essential to our survival, otherwise though I don't give two fucks if the endangered blue tailed finch goes extinct.
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