Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[pineapplebunnybounce]

Thalidomide wasn't tested on rabbits. I'm in the business, I know what I'm talking about when I talk about animal testing.

Every single drug on the market right now has been tested on animals. If you want to talk about similarities we have transgenic mice, if you want to talk about variety we've got that, too. Without animals you can kiss good bye to drug development. I know that's the position some people take, but don't pretend like you can have drug development without animal testing. That is absurd. You cannot feed a drug to a human and then split his brain to see what effects it had. You cannot fast forward 10 years to see how he reacts to chronic administration. You cannot overdose him to figure out what's the limit. It's an impossibility even if you overlook the ethical problems because animals have shorter lifespan and reproduce so much quicker. I don't agree with testing on primates, my mind isn't made up on cats and dogs, but the rest of it is pretty much fair game.

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[FlyingNarwhal]

[Zen Badger]

Everything that is born will die
Everything that dies will be eaten.
What do you think happens to animals in the wild?
They die in fear and pain and then get fucking eaten.
So don't give me this "it's not ethical to eat animals"malarkey.
It is a total non sequitur.

[KichigaiNeko]

[StoryBook]

[c172]

I love eating like a vegetarian, but I do need meat every so often.

Also, I'm not sure where butter falls. My favorite breakfast is Morningstar vegetarian sausage in a Pillsbury biscuit.

[MindForgedManacle]

Lol, did he take my first post seriously? I guess I'm just no good with memes.

I think Peter Singer might be right that future generations will find our meat-eating and (especially) general treatment of animals to be an atrocius moral evil. This brought to mind a thread in which someone tried to justify prohibiting bestiality by bringing up the issue of consent, and Genkaus pointed out the strangeness of consent ruling out sex with animals but eating them is a-okay.

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Lol, did he take my first post seriously? I guess I'm just no good with memes.

I think Peter Singer might be right that future generations will find our meat-eating and (especially) general treatment of animals to be an atrocius moral evil. This brought to mind a thread in which someone tried to justify prohibiting bestiality by bringing up the issue of consent, and Genkaus pointed out the strangeness of consent ruling out sex with animals but eating them is a-okay.

I think Peter singer is almost certainl;y right

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I love eating like a vegetarian, but I do need meat every so often.

Also, I'm not sure where butter falls. My favorite breakfast is Morningstar vegetarian sausage in a Pillsbury biscuit.

Why do you need meat? Which amino acids are you missing from a vegetarian diet?

[bennyboy]

I love eating like a vegetarian, but I do need meat every so often.

No, you don't.


This is my main argument for vegetarianism: given the richness of substitutes in the developed world, there's really no real need to eat meat at all.