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An unanswerable question
RE: An unanswerable question
Don't ignore me, Lek. Do you really not kill babies only because the bible tells you not to murder people?
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 10:12 pm)Rahul Wrote: Don't ignore me, Lek. Do you really not kill babies only because the bible tells you not to murder people?

No. That's not the only reason I don't want to kill babies. I love babies and don't want to hurt them.
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RE: An unanswerable question
So you have your own sense of morality independent of biblical injunctions?
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So you have your own sense of morality independent of biblical injunctions?

Yes. Atheists also have a sense of morality.
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 10:20 pm)Lek Wrote: No. That's not the only reason I don't want to kill babies. I love babies and don't want to hurt them.

But you would ignore your innate morality and kill one if a god told you to?
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 10:24 pm)Lek Wrote:
(February 20, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So you have your own sense of morality independent of biblical injunctions?

Yes. Atheists also have a sense of morality.

Then what use is your god and its bible?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(February 20, 2014 at 10:24 pm)Lek Wrote: Yes. Atheists also have a sense of morality.

Then what use is your god and its bible?

Because we don't obtain salvation by being moral people.

In answer to your question Rahul - Yes, because if God told me to do it, it would be for a moral reason and for the good of the child.
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Lek Wrote:
(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then what use is your god and its bible?

Because we don't obtain salvation by being moral people.

I really don't feel the need to get on the good side of the god portrayed in the bible. Not that I think I'd be able to stay on his good side indefinitely, or that I'd still be me if somehow I could.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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(February 20, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Lek Wrote: In answer to your question Raul - Yes, because if God told me to do it, it would be for a moral reason and for the good of the child.

I never read of a story in the bible of god commanding someone to kill a child or baby for their good. The reasons were either vengence or a test of faith for the one to do the killing.

For very immoral reasons.
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RE: An unanswerable question
(February 20, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Lek Wrote:
(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then what use is your god and its bible?

Because we don't obtain salvation by being moral people.

Yet you were the one who said:

(February 20, 2014 at 8:27 pm)Lek Wrote: I wouldn't normally kill a baby now because the bible tells me not to murder.

So if you wouldn't "normally" act in such a way because the book tells you not to, yet your - and my - independent sense of morality would prevent us from acting in that way, that would mean that the pronouncements in the book are redundant; because you and I, believer and non, already come with these moral sensibilities inbuilt as standard. And since you take the bible as "his word", that leaves your god out in the cold.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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