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Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (March 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: God isn't doing anything equivalent to that. If you choose not to follow him, you just go on with your life until it's over. You're right, he's not doing anything equivalent to that. He is doing something much much much worse. 'Believe in me or spend an eternity in hell' That isn't a choice. That is blackmail, why can't you see this and why can't you understand any of the other examples?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (March 3, 2014 at 5:37 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:(March 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: God isn't doing anything equivalent to that. If you choose not to follow him, you just go on with your life until it's over.And then your soul is tortured for an eternity. Because he gave "free will" to people with the caveat that if you practiced that free will and refused to believe in something for which there is absolutely no evidence, then you will be tortured forever. Sounds legit . . . Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (March 3, 2014 at 5:38 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:Only Jesus' perfect blood can make us worthy of heaven. God only wants pure souls in heaven and will do anything to help people become so. The atheist chooses not to accept his perfect gift. It's not 'Believe in me or spend an eternity in hell' because believing in him is the greatest thing that can ever happen to someone! God makes the choice so easy that it is completely illogical that anyone would say no to it, but if they do, they have Hell to go to.(March 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: God isn't doing anything equivalent to that. If you choose not to follow him, you just go on with your life until it's over. (March 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote:(March 3, 2014 at 5:38 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: You're right, he's not doing anything equivalent to that. He is doing something much much much worse. 'Believe in me or spend an eternity in hell' That isn't a choice. That is blackmail, why can't you see this and why can't you understand any of the other examples?Only Jesus' perfect blood can make us worthy of heaven. God only wants pure souls in heaven and will do anything to help people become so. The atheist chooses not to accept his perfect gift. It's not 'Believe in me or spend an eternity in hell' because believing in him is the greatest thing that can ever happen to someone! God makes the choice so easy that it is completely illogical that anyone would say no to it, but if they do, they have Hell to go to. How many empty words can you put together? Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (March 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Sorry but you can't choose neither. Your soul has to go somewhere. Either you accept God's gift, or choose to be with his exact opposite, Satan. Sorry, but you must show that a soul exists before you claim that it has to go somewhere. Until that point, I'll maintain that neither is, in fact, a choice. When you are saying that this choice that you are proposing isn't a bad thing, you are presupposing a belief in god, JL1. If you are sitting on my side of the fence, then you'd see that turning off my brain and dumping all of the knowledge I have that contradicts the existence of anything supernatural is one of the most abhorrent things I can imagine. So the analogy of the gun to your head is very applicable.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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Well if the Bible isn't the devine work of God, and I forget the exact verse, but at one point it says all the stars are unique. How the heck could man have known that before the age of science?
(March 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Well if the Bible isn't the devine work of God, and I forget the exact verse, but at one point it says all the stars are unique. How the heck could man have known that before the age of science? Really? That is your qualification for divine knowledge? And what's the other hypothesis, that all the stars are the same? Really?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (March 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Only Jesus' perfect blood can make us worthy of heaven. God only wants pure souls in heaven and will do anything to help people become so. The atheist chooses not to accept his perfect gift. It's not 'Believe in me or spend an eternity in hell' because believing in him is the greatest thing that can ever happen to someone! That doesn't change the fact that it is blackmail. How can you not see that you halfwit? (March 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: God makes the choice so easy that it is completely illogical that anyone would say no to it, but if they do, they have Hell to go to. God does not make the choice easy at all. He hasn't asked me about it. He hasn't revealed himself to me and explained.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (March 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Well if the Bible isn't the devine work of God, and I forget the exact verse, but at one point it says all the stars are unique. How the heck could man have known that before the age of science? The same way you know that all people are unique. That all cats are unique. That all trees are unique. It doesn't take science to realise that every individual being, item, etc, is unique. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" |
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