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Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 6:48 am
I think when the musician wrote the notes of his symphony and then listened to it and liked it , he liked what he was hearing , cuz his brain was sophisticated enough to understand the depth, the consistency and the beauty in his music , and so only the intelligent ones will understand that music and see how great it is , kinda like if you encode a letter so that only the ones with the decoding mechanism can read it .
Do you think the same or not ?
I like to listen to lots of kinds of music , but when it comes to classic, I let Mozart make sweet love to my mind .
Great musician's achievement is as much important as a great physicist's or a mathematician's achievement , look at how many hours were spent in a better state of mind and more peace inside and how many of those people across the world will listen to these great sounds that moved our hearts and made us feel warmer and more passionate .
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 9:17 am
Ah, Mozart! As a pianist, I adore him! His pieces can be simple enough to play through just like that, but even the simpler ones have so much nuance and potential for complexity, so it never gets boring playing one of his pieces. Then we have the more technically demanding pieces, hard to play, but once you get a hang of them, the way your fingers dance over the keys is as easy as breathing. He may have been cuckoo to boot, but darn, that man could compose music!
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 9:40 am
I could never really get into mozart, apart from the "Mozart" requiem, because superficially most of his output seemed terribly aimed at pleasing the ear rather than conveying emotions or ideas, sometimes almost a series of cliches. Of course any music theorist will tell me that's because I'm an idiot and too shallow to appreciate the full complexity, and that's ok. Baroque just tickles.my mind more with its obvious mathematical structure, and romantic and late romantic stuff like Bruckner conveys the grand emotions for me more than early viennese classic. I have a special place in my heart for Beethoven , being at the transition.
I don't entirely subscribe to the correlation of intelligence and appreciation of complex music, but mainly because I find the concept of iq and intelligence deeply flawed. The music preference is a sign of a kind of intelligence if you will.
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 9:42 am
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(March 5, 2014 at 6:48 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote:
Great musician's achievement is as much important as a great physicist's or a mathematician's achievement , look at how many hours were spent in a better state of mind and more peace inside and how many of those people across the world will listen to these great sounds that moved our hearts and made us feel warmer and more passionate .[/hide] Well, musical intelligence is just one of the 9 (that we currently identify) but I agree: musicians are a cultural asset and great musical achievements are as important to cultural development as any artistic, technological, ethical or physical ones.
I have no particular allegiance to any composer, producer or group (preferring to judge each piece on its own merits) but I have a fondness for many of Mozart's compositions.
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 10:03 am
(March 5, 2014 at 9:40 am)Alex K Wrote: Baroque just tickles.my mind more with its obvious mathematical structure
I think TEGH will agree with you, but once again from a pianists POV, I cannot. Bach.. I hate Bach! Firstly, he made most of his music for organists and harpsichord players, so it does not translate well to the piano. Secondly, there is no phrasing, no pauses to catch your breath, you just plow through the music, hoping you'll come out on the other side in one piece. Thirdly, I had a Bach piece in my repertoire, when I got my 3/3 diploma, and due to nerves I messed it up and got barely no points for it. So yeah, even though I can understand the magnificence of baroque music, don't force me to play it!!
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 11:51 am
There are people who have mental disabilities who are nonetheless brilliant at music. Intelligence is too difficult to quantify to say there's a definite correlation.
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 12:28 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 11:51 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: There are people who have mental disabilities who are nonetheless brilliant at music. Intelligence is too difficult to quantify to say there's a definite correlation.
I think that was the gist of Ben's post, it's merely a facet of intelligence. Though on an anecdotal level, the all of the genius level people I know, have also been brilliant musicians.
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 12:31 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: I think that was the gist of Ben's post, it's merely a facet of intelligence. Though on an anecdotal level, the all of the genius level people I know, have also been brilliant musicians.
Every intelligent person I know has gained comfort in artistic expression in some capacity. I think it's 1) a relaxation thing and 2) an expression of their willingness to expand their brains in all directions. It's not limited to music.
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 12:47 pm
It always kinda terrifies me when people start talking technical about music, or about "conveying emotions and ideas," through it, because when I'm writing, my sole thought is literally "this might sound good." So I guess in some ways, I'm a musical simpleton.
Even when I was physically capable of playing, I'd learn anime theme songs rather than classical pieces. I was just having fun with it.
'Course, that's all off the table now since I hurt my hand. Now I'm just a composer ramming inappropriate electric guitar riffs into orchestrations.
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RE: Music and intelligence connection
March 5, 2014 at 12:53 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 12:31 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: (March 5, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: I think that was the gist of Ben's post, it's merely a facet of intelligence. Though on an anecdotal level, the all of the genius level people I know, have also been brilliant musicians.
Every intelligent person I know has gained comfort in artistic expression in some capacity. I think it's 1) a relaxation thing and 2) an expression of their willingness to expand their brains in all directions. It's not limited to music.
Interesting experiment, Summer. Let's give an IQ test to a symphony orchestra audience and compare it to a test given to fans at a wrestling match and see what the results are!
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