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Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
#11
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Ok,you lot realize that no one has died, right?

Boru

Yes of course we do! It's a question of ethics. More hypothetical than anything else.
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#12
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Ok,you lot realize that no one has died, right?

Actually, lots of people have died.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#13
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
I personally don't like the idea of celebrating over someone's death. There are, honestly, people I'm quite glad to see being removed from existence - bin Laden, for instance.

I don't know if being glad to see them gone counts as celebrating? That depends on the individual's interpretation of what I said.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#14
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 15, 2014 at 8:22 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(April 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Ok,you lot realize that no one has died, right?

Actually, lots of people have died.

At least 90% have died, but we only have estimates at this point.
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#15
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 15, 2014 at 8:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: I personally don't like the idea of celebrating over someone's death. There are, honestly, people I'm quite glad to see being removed from existence - bin Laden, for instance.

I don't know if being glad to see them gone counts as celebrating? That depends on the individual's interpretation of what I said.

This is a good point: there's a difference between celebrating and being remorseless.
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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#16
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 15, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:
(April 15, 2014 at 8:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: I personally don't like the idea of celebrating over someone's death. There are, honestly, people I'm quite glad to see being removed from existence - bin Laden, for instance.

I don't know if being glad to see them gone counts as celebrating? That depends on the individual's interpretation of what I said.

This is a good point: there's a difference between celebrating and being remorseless.
I don't see the problem. If someone who you know has willingly harmed others, including women and children, dies, then you should throw a goddamn tickertape parade. Give everyone a day off school. Pray for a day that hell is real so that fucker can go there.
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#17
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
Well finally he gives us some fan service! Big Grin


When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#18
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 15, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: This is a good point: there's a difference between celebrating and being remorseless.

I have no problem being remorseless.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#19
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
(April 16, 2014 at 6:54 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(April 15, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: This is a good point: there's a difference between celebrating and being remorseless.
I don't see the problem. If someone who you know has willingly harmed others, including women and children, dies, then you should throw a goddamn tickertape parade. Give everyone a day off school. Pray for a day that hell is real so that fucker can go there.

I don't think there is a problem.

For instance, when Bin Laden was killed I was 100% remorseless, and had I actually thought something would change because of his death (the end of Al Qaeda, the end of terrorism in general, the end of Islamist fundamentalism, the end of something, or at least the beginning of the demise of any of these things) I probably would have celebrated. But I didn't think any of those things would happen simply because Bin Laden was killed.

Had I lived in 1945 and had just gotten the news that Hitler had committed suicide, I would have been remorseless and would probably have celebrated since the tides of the war had turned by that point, and Hitler's death would be a signal of things changing.

By saying that there's a difference between being remorseless and celebrating a death I'm not saying that one is better than the other, I'm saying that there is a difference of attitude between the two, there is a difference in expectations.

(April 16, 2014 at 10:24 am)Kitanetos Wrote:
(April 15, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: This is a good point: there's a difference between celebrating and being remorseless.

I have no problem being remorseless.

Me neither. I also don't have a problem celebrating a death if I feel it's warranted. And that's the thing: everyone feels differently about certain people's deaths, and some people's deaths deserve to be celebrated.



I'm sure there will be people celebrating Obama's death when it comes and some that will mourn it, just as there will be people celebrating Bush Jr.'s death when it comes and some that will mourn it. Some will celebrate Dick Cheney's death and some won't, some will celebrate Kim Kardashian's death, some won't.
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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#20
RE: Ding! Dong! The bitch is dead!
Y'all already know how I felt when Fred Phelps died, and he was a real life person. I don't watch Game of Thrones, but you know, there are lots of fictional characters whose deaths I would celebrate! Big Grin
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