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Chelsea Truthers
#11
RE: Chelsea Truthers
Personally I think the baby makes it less likely that Hillary runs.
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#12
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(April 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: Personally I think the baby makes it less likely that Hillary runs.

Why? It's Chelsea's baby, not hers.
Don’t ask.

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#13
RE: Chelsea Truthers
(April 22, 2014 at 4:13 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(April 22, 2014 at 4:04 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: I don't think Hilary planned her daughter getting pregnant. But I no doubt think that Hilary is using her daughter's pregnancy to get her some political points.


I don't think the fact Hilary would be a grandmother would help her much in a general election. Prevailing social prejudices probably won't reward her for acquiring the trappings of being old.

It's not to highlight her age, nice family stuff is always politicized by politicians and Hilary is no different. I've got a CNN app on my phone where I check the news, and at one point Chelsea being pregnant was the featured article under their "Top Articles" section. Why? When have I ever cared about Chelsea Clinton ever? When have I ever really cared about any politician's kid? Plus Chelsea campaigned for her mother in 2008, it's not entirely out of the question that she would make her pregnancy a public show to help her mother out. Think about it there's 100 senators and 400-something house representatives, and most of them (almost all) have kids. When's the last time that one of their kids got this much media attention for being pregnant (or have a spouse that's pregnant)? Unless I'm forgetting anyone, I think the last time was with Bristol Palin.
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(April 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: When's the last time that one of their kids got this much media attention for being pregnant (or have a spouse that's pregnant)? Unless I'm forgetting anyone, I think the last time was with Bristol Palin.

Sarah Palin can escape the consequences because she is a big haired floosy. Hilary Clinton is a Weslean who went to Yale.

Americans tend to adore those who aspire towards being as dumb as they are, and are blase towards their fault. But Americans also tend to be vindictive towards those who demonstrate it is quite possible to be smarter, more educated and cultured, and better than they are, and would magnify each fault they see.
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#15
RE: Chelsea Truthers
(April 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: Think about it there's 100 senators and 400-something house representatives, and most of them (almost all) have kids. When's the last time that one of their kids got this much media attention for being pregnant (or have a spouse that's pregnant)?

I'm pretty sure she gets as much attention as she does because of her father, not her mother.
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#16
RE: Chelsea Truthers
What are you talking about, Palin got a lot of flak for having a child that was pregnant out of wedlock from both liberals and conservatives.

(April 22, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Chuck Wrote: Hilary Clinton is a Weslean who went to Yale. Americans forgive those who aspire towards being as dumb as they are, and are vindictive towards those who demonstrate it is quite possible to be smarter and better than they are.

This is why liberals are called elitists.
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#17
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(April 22, 2014 at 5:23 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: What are you talking about, Palin got a lot of flak for having a child that was pregnant out of wedlock from both liberals and conservatives.


Yeah, but I don't think it hurt Palin with her hick and floosy constituency.



(April 22, 2014 at 5:23 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote:
(April 22, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Chuck Wrote: Hilary Clinton is a Weslean who went to Yale. Americans forgive those who aspire towards being as dumb as they are, and are vindictive towards those who demonstrate it is quite possible to be smarter and better than they are.

This is why liberals are called elitists.


The alternative to elitist - where the elite do not hesitate to point out where the masses can improve - would be populist, where the elite defraud the masses by telling the masses, ultimately at the expense of the masses, that the mediocrity of the masses is nothing short of perfection.
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#18
RE: Chelsea Truthers
(April 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm)Diamond Wrote:
(April 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: Personally I think the baby makes it less likely that Hillary runs.

Why? It's Chelsea's baby, not hers.

Being president means she has less time to be mom and grandma.
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#19
RE: Chelsea Truthers
(April 22, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm)Diamond Wrote: Why? It's Chelsea's baby, not hers.

Being president means she has less time to be mom and grandma.

How come having less time to be pa and grandpa is never an issue?
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#20
RE: Chelsea Truthers
(April 22, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm)Diamond Wrote: Why? It's Chelsea's baby, not hers.

Being president means she has less time to be mom and grandma.

And yet, we didn't say the same thing about Obama and he's a father.

(April 22, 2014 at 5:31 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(April 22, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Heywood Wrote: Being president means she has less time to be mom and grandma.

How come having less time to be pa and grandpa is never an issue?

Dammit, Chuck! You beat me to it. Tongue
Don’t ask.

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