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Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Heywood Wrote: It is simply ludicrous to deny that there is pressure from the Lesbian and Gay community to punish anyone who opposes their political agenda.

So reprehensible of them, especially since their opponent had been so kind and generous as to apply pressure to punish lesbian and gays not for their agenda, but for being lesbian and gay.
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Heywood Wrote: It is simply ludicrous to deny that there is pressure from the Lesbian and Gay community to punish anyone who opposes their political agenda.

If by 'political agenda,' you mean anyone who wishes to deny them civil liberties, then you're right.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#13
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Tonus Wrote:
Quote:The American Family Association has claimed that it is impossible for Christians to work in a large range of different professions, because ‘homosexuals’ will ‘wreck’ their careers.

Catholic priests have expressed similar dismay over "young, nubile boys."

rather than wrecking their careers, I think catholic priests regard "young, nubile boys." as being integral and indispensible to their careers.
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:14 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(April 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Heywood Wrote: It is simply ludicrous to deny that there is pressure from the Lesbian and Gay community to punish anyone who opposes their political agenda.

If by 'political agenda,' you mean anyone who wishes to deny them civil liberties, then you're right.

Except that you want to deny some the liberty of not recognizing someone elses marriage.

Why should the CEO of Chick Fil a be required to recognize gay marriages? If you prevent him from doing that, then you are infringing on his liberties.
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#15
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
I wonder how many of these small business owners being put upon by the gays are consistent in also not providing services to folks wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, the shrimp and crab eaters, the divorced and remarried, their fellow Christians that do not handle serpents and drink deadly things, Christians whose denominations allow menstruating women and amputees in church on Sunday, and about 600 other little problem categories ??
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#16
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:27 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I wonder how many of these small business owners being put upon by the gays are consistent in also not providing services to folks wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, the shrimp and crab eaters, the divorced and remarried, their fellow Christians that do not handle serpents and drink deadly things, Christians whose denominations allow menstruating women and amputees in church on Sunday, and about 600 other little problem categories ??

People should be free to serve who they want to serve. If you force a baker to serve someone they don't want to serve.....you turn that baker into a slave.
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 25, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, right...because religious shitstains would NEVER do anything like that, would they?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/disney2.htm



Yeah...jesus freaks NEVER act like fucking assholes, do they?

Are you saying gays act like fucking assholes when the lobby to get people fired who donate to anti-gay causes? Or do you just think people who don't think like you do are assholes?

I'm saying you are a fucking hypocrite for suggesting that your xtian buddies are not far bigger offenders when it comes to playing the persecution card....since you obviously didn't get it the first time.
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#18
RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 25, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Heywood Wrote: Are you saying gays act like fucking assholes when the lobby to get people fired who donate to anti-gay causes? Or do you just think people who don't think like you do are assholes?

I'm saying you are a fucking hypocrite for suggesting that your xtian buddies are not far bigger offenders when it comes to playing the persecution card....since you obviously didn't get it the first time.

Negative Minimalist.

My position is that you should be able to discriminate against gays and homophobes...or anyone else.

The hypocrisy only comes when you believe you should be able to discriminate against some and not others(as is your position).
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Heywood Wrote: Except that you want to deny some the liberty of not recognizing someone elses [sic] marriage.

Why should the CEO of Chick Fil a [sic] be required to recognize gay marriages? If you prevent him from doing that, then you are infringing on his liberties.

AMEN MY CHRISTIAN BROTHER!!!!!!!

I'm just so sick of the heathen trash going about our Christian Nation whining about "rights for this" and "rights for that". What about our rights?

To borrow from the anti-death-penalty crowd, why do we stop people from bullying other people to show that bullying people is wrong? When you stop me from oppressing another, isn't that oppressing me?

As True Christians ™ it is not only our right to believe what we wish but also to enforce those beliefs on other people, punishing them as we see fit when they stray from the path our Lord has set for them. After all, Jesus is not just our Lord but theirs as well.

Now I realize that some with a secular godless understanding of morality may say that we have no sense of boundaries but that's only because we have a sense of perspective. What, after all, is a little sectarian oppression on this earth to save more souls from the eternal torments of Hell, where our loving Lord will send people if they choose a partner with similar body parts?

We have a mission to save souls from the eternal torments of Hell. We'll fail, of course, because the Lord has already determined who's going to be saved, but we'll still feel good about ourselves for trying. When the stakes are that high and the results so long lasting, we can't afford to concern ourselves with the rights of others.

Now if we could only return to the good old days when we could really do the Lord's work unfettered by secular interference, we could save even more souls for all eternity.
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RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
(April 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Heywood Wrote: Except that you want to deny some the liberty of not recognizing someone elses marriage.
Sure don't. You can personally not recognize gay marriage all you want. By all means, go ahead. But when you try to inflict your personal morals on everyone else and enact that into law, that is when there is an issue.

The issue is that if you say something bigoted, or try to enact a bigoted law, you can't cry when people call you a bigot. And just because your view has a religious base doesn't shield you from the label of bigot.

Back in the 60's, this same issue was happening with interracial marriage. People cited the Bible (Deut 7:3-4, Lev 19:19, Ezra 9:12, etc) and claimed it 'violated the sanctity of marriage' or some such nonsense. Biblical support or not, those people were bigots. History repeats itself.

You can think whatever you want. If you believe that gay marriage is a sin, don't marry a dude. Just don't cry when people are rallying against your ability to foist your morality on everyone else.

(April 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Heywood Wrote: Why should the CEO of Chick Fil a be required to recognize gay marriages? If you prevent him from doing that, then you are infringing on his liberties.
Again, no one is saying that he shouldn't be allowed to have those views. He can personally not recognize whatever he wants, be it polygamist marriages, gay marriages, whatever. But to say people shouldn't be allowed their reaction to his views is ludicrous in its own right, and infringes on those very same liberties you are declaiming.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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