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The Million Dollar Question
RE: The Million Dollar Question
Badger Badger Badger Badger Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 13, 2014 at 11:53 am)RaisdCath Wrote:
(May 6, 2014 at 1:36 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What is a God?

Before I answer....I want to know who's putting up the million....and what guarantee do I have of payment?

Your treasures get stored up in heaven don't you know.
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 16, 2014 at 3:31 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(May 13, 2014 at 11:53 am)RaisdCath Wrote: Before I answer....I want to know who's putting up the million....and what guarantee do I have of payment?

Your treasures get stored up in heaven don't you know.

Got a phone number, or even a mailing address. I need to be able to communicate with my representative in heaven and I want the terms and conditions in writing. That includes treasure collected to date, rate of increase, insurance on goods (gods let's some bad people in heaven). I'd like some information on inflation in heaven as well as Imagine it is very high. I know will say I can contact via prayer, but that seems rather unreliable and I did something that a third party van review. So either a phone call or mail should do. Think heaven can handle that? It is nothing then I require of any bank on earth.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 13, 2014 at 4:00 pm)Confused Ape Wrote: Except when it came to the morning, midday and evening sun.

Sure. These are only inconsistencies in Egyptian theology, not with the definition of the term god.

Quote: The point I was making is that a deity's attributes and domain depends on theology. The Egyptians, as you said, had a very muddled theology. Who, exactly was the supreme deity of the Sun?

Seems like it changed as time went on.

Quote: So, let's move on to theology. Does the proof of a deity being real depend on how consistent the theology is? Christians have a supreme being but they haven't been 100% consistent where attributes are concerned.
Since theology is merely the study of god then no I would say it would not necessarily have to be consistent in order for that god to exist because the theology could simply be in error. A perfectly consistent theology would have to be possible however if the god did exist. Christian theology is the most consistent and philosophically astute theology however. That could very well be because Christians are studying something that actually is real rather than something man-made. This is not a proof that Yahweh exists, simply something interesting to ponder.

Quote: How far back are you going in this very long time?

Well many of God’s attributes are explicitly mentioned in scripture itself.
As for the rebuking of heretical teachings by the early church, this seems to only substantiate by claim that Christians have had a very definite definition of God for a long time. They used that definition to correct or rebuke anyone who created their own false definition. We still use the writings of the early church fathers today because the theology has been so consistent.

Quote: After that the Roman Catholics managed to wipe out all the opposition until Protestantism came along. I'm going to finish this post with

The Eastern Orthodox Church may be a bit offended that you seemed to forget that they even exist.

Quote: I'm not going to quote them but there are a considerable number of them. The question of whether or not the Christian God is a Trinity isn't as muddled as Egyptian theology but all that can be said about these different ideas is that Jesus is in there somewhere.

Non-Trinitarians are actually a great minority and regarded by most as non-Christian churches. Interestingly enough, I was just talking to a couple Jehovah’s Witnesses on my front lawn the other day and to say that they are Christians is simply inaccurate. They have borrowed much of our terminology but that’s about it.

Quote: Okay, so let's go with your definition. How does that prove the Christian deity is any more real than Odin who was the highest of the Norse gods?

It doesn’t. That was not the original question though was it? The original question was to define the term god, not to prove any god exists.
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
Quote: Christian theology is the most consistent and philosophically astute theology however.

I'm sure that, at some point, you've dropped a turd that smelled better than the thousands of others you've produced, but it was still just a turd.
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I'm sure that, at some point, you've dropped a turd that smelled better than the thousands of others you've produced, but it was still just a turd.

I realize that as an atheist you do not value logical coherency and consistency but I for one value it very much which is why I could never believe what you believe.
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The Million Dollar Question
(May 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:
(May 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I'm sure that, at some point, you've dropped a turd that smelled better than the thousands of others you've produced, but it was still just a turd.

I realize that as an atheist you do not value logical coherency and consistency but I for one value it very much which is why I could never believe what you believe.

Do you use drugs?

Reason I ask is, you keep gargling this garbage rhetoric that somehow, belief in an invisible, intangible entity you cannot prove exists somehow makes you a "more astute thinker" or "value logic," but you don't seem to understand what these words mean.

You're smugly informing someone that because you by definition hold a set of irrational beliefs you cannot empirically verify, that you value logical coherency and consistency more than someone who does not accept your irrational beliefs because they do not make logical sense, and cannot be verified.
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 12, 2014 at 6:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No the definition would still apply, each of those gods or goddesses were supreme in one attribute or domain.


WOOT----WOOT
I'm a goddess!!!
I'm supreme in the domain of being ME!!
(running around and waving my arms)


What a stupid definition.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
(May 6, 2014 at 3:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: God: the object of a believer's devotion.

So Leean Tweeden, then.

(May 7, 2014 at 9:42 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(May 7, 2014 at 9:33 pm)lordofgemini Wrote: Eternal
Absolute
One
Unique
How do you know there is only one?

Because, well...

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"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: The Million Dollar Question
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